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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This continues to be an extremely
interesting and potentially helpful thread. Thanks very much for your comment. There’s
a meeting of the EWG later this morning and I’ll raise this as a discussion
topic there. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m hoping this turns out to be a small
amount of important, focused work rather than a large project, but I don’t know
that yet. Because I’m want this to be addressed correctly, I’m keeping the MWG
looped in case any of this spills over into their domain<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks again, Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org [mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Russo<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, November 24, 2008
4:12 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ewg@lists.openfabrics.org</st1:PersonName>;
mwg@lists.openfabris.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [ewg] Panel at
SC08/Austin -- what can we do about this?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>This may be a
small part of a larger issue. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>As the Open
Fabrics products gain a larger customer base, we cannot assume that all users
will be actively following the mailing lists. A detailed Users Guide
which covers issues such as installation as well as the features and use of
each ULP is necessary forthose who are not intimately familiar with the
OFED/WinOF offerings. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>In addition,
there is currently no documentation that informs anyone of changes between
releases of OFED/WinOF. Even those who are working to test release
candidates do not have enough information as to what has changed between
builds. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>In order to
build a legitimate set of user documentation, there needs to be a more formal
process for developers to document changes, enhancements and bug fixes that are
added to a release. This does not have to be a major burden on the
developers; a few comments in a pre-determined README file would go a long way
to improving communication of changes to the product. This would ensure that
the community adequately tests updates to the products and that end-users would
have the information they need to get the most out of it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=maroon face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'>Just my 2-cents.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:maroon'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org [mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ryan, Jim<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November 22, 2008
5:41 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Hebenstreit, Michael; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">ewg@lists.openfabrics.org</st1:PersonName>; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">mwg@lists.openfabrics.org</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">bboas@systemfabricworks.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [ewg] RE: Panel at
SC08/Austin -- what can we do about this?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m not completely clear about the genesis
of the email below and the points that were made, but I thought this was
extremely interesting. Maybe I’m unreasonably impressed because I got similar
questions from people stopping by the OpenFabrics booth at SC’08. Just, as one
example, a professor at The University of Tokyo asked for a “programming
manual”, which I understood to mean a how-to-get-started document for
implementing high-performance networks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m copying the Marketing Working Group of
OFA and will do so further to see if there’s someone who can act on these
concerns. I think ignorance of basics is a major challenge for OFA to address
for broader acceptance of the interconnects we support<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks, Jim Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org [mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Hebenstreit, Michael<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, November 21, 2008
3:10 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ewg@lists.openfabrics.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [ewg] Panel at SC08/Austin</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>At the session I raised points about missing documentation
and was askled to summarize my ideas and write it to this list. specifically I
would like to see</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>a) a PDF binder of all mans/docs already available in the
distribution on the web site</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>b) a howto start with OFED (example: a collegue of mine had
no idea that he needs a running opensm ...)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>c) for each special feature like "ipoib, sdp,
opensm..." one or two pages describing WHAT the technology want's to
achieve, plus some examples how it is used; how to enable/configure it</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>d) on technologies like VERB/DAPL/...: one or two pages
describing WHAT the technology want's to achieve, plus some examples how it is
used; a few simple examples how to program with the libraries (at the level of
a MPI introduction)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>best regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Michael</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Michael <span class=spelle>Hebenstreit</span>
Senior Cluster Architect<br>
Intel
Corporation
Software and Services Group/DRD<br>
<st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">2800 N Center Dr</st1:address></st1:Street>,
DP3-307
Tel.: +1 253 371 3144<br>
WA 98327,
DuPont <br>
UNITED STATES
E-mail: michael.hebenstreit@intel.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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