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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">< this is a re-send; individually named people have seen it, but the EWG list has not; hopefully it works this time. ><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks, Faisal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I also said in the last EWG con-call that the Intel InfiniBand team is committed to OFED and the qib driver backports. We’ll have timelines by the next EWG
con-call, if not sooner.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Are meeting minutes going to appear showing what we discussed in the last EWG meeting?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">-Tom Elken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org [mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Latif, Faisal<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 20, 2012 8:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> richard Croucher; Woodruff, Robert J<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ewg@lists.openfabrics.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ewg] "To OFED or not to OFED"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We had already talked in our last ewg meeting that we are working on providing backports support (for NES) for OFED-3.2. In our next ewg meeting, timelines
will be discussed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It has taken long and as we have been going over the new OFED package and had issues earlier and hopefully we will have the package with all the drivers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Faisal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>richard Croucher<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 20, 2012 2:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Woodruff, Robert J<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ewg@lists.openfabrics.org">ewg@lists.openfabrics.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ewg] "To OFED or not to OFED"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As a OFED User I would rather it include all the low level drivers.<br>
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The problem comes with mixed hardware environments. <br>
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If I have to go to Mellanox for their drivers they will insist I run their complete MLNX OFED build.<br>
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If I go to Qlogic/Intel they will say the same. I will then end up with two different OFED distros running which makes our life really difficult.<br>
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At least today I can choose, i'e as these drivers are all in OFED, they are also all in the MLNX_OFED as well so I can choose to run that if I wish. If they are taken out of OFED, I won't have that choice. I like choice.<br>
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If the other vendors are not maintaining their drivers and there are know bugs with them, then this should be documented in the release notes and as a last recourse they get dropped from a specific OFED release. We need to keep the door open to these other
vendors, then the User community can apply pressure to them. <br>
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I'll mention this to both the Chelsio and Intel sales teams when they next come knocking at my door to buy their stuff.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 15:42 +0000, Woodruff, Robert J wrote:
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<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>I think it is too soon to discuss this with the board. Right now the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>EWG is not recommending anything, just soliciting input from the larger <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>community.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Let's have the discussion on the list first to get people's position on this<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>before we have any discussions at the board meeting.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>From: <a href="mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org</a>] On Behalf Of Gilad Shainer<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:32 AM<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: Ryan, Jim; Tziporet Koren; <a href="mailto:ewg@lists.openfabrics.org">ewg@lists.openfabrics.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: Re: [ewg] "To OFED or not to OFED"<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Jim,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>I believe that we should also include Tziporet and maybe others, therefore Friday will not work for folks from Israel.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Gilad<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>From: <a href="mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ryan, Jim<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:28 AM<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: Tziporet Koren; <a href="mailto:ewg@lists.openfabrics.org">ewg@lists.openfabrics.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: Re: [ewg] "To OFED or not to OFED"<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Tziporet, I think this is a very important decision. I'd like to make it an agenda item for the Board meeting on Friday. Woody typically participates -- would this be ok?<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Thanks, Jim<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>From: <a href="mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">mailto:ewg-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org</a>] On Behalf Of Tziporet Koren<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:04 AM<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: <a href="mailto:ewg@lists.openfabrics.org">ewg@lists.openfabrics.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: [ewg] "To OFED or not to OFED"<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>We started to work on OFED 3.2 and for now we already have the base code working with the new compat framework:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- IB core (all modules)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- IPoIB<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- mlx4, mthca - Mellanox drivers<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>However for the last few months there was no progress on any other low level driver:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- qib - Intel<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- nec - Intel<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- cxgb3/4 - Chelsio<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Since there is no reason to have OFED release for Mellanox only we need to understand the other companies position and commitment for OFED.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>We have two options:<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- Drop OFED releases all together. Focus our EWG efforts in pushing APIs, testing of the Linux inbox SW stack and driver enhancements for the RDMA technology<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- Get real commitment from the vendors on dates to provide the backport support (we can move to kernel 3.3 if we decide this)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Please do your internal consideration and come back with your decision.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> The final decision will be taken in next EWG meeting on May 1.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Thanks<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Tziporet & Woody<o:p></o:p></pre>
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