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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/03/2020 09:16 PM, Davis, Arlin R
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Hello, <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">The recommendation from the OFA board is to
          move to a lite weight OFED packaging option. This new
          packaging would simply update the vendors drivers, rebased for
          distro’s compat_rdma kernel sub-system. It would not replace
          the entire compat-rdma sub-system with latest upstream kernel
          versions. Not sure how we handle the out of tree builds for
          rdma_core in user-space, we may have to patch and rebuild
          entire package.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Would this be an acceptable packaging
          option for your company? Would there be any value without
          latest upstream compat-rdma stack?<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">We will discuss this on Monday, or you can
          simply reply to the EWG mailing list with your feedback. 
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Arlin<o:p></o:p></p>
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    <br>
    Hi Arlin,<br>
    Can you elaborate on the meaning of "simply update the vendors
    drivers, rebased for distro’s compat_rdma kernel sub-system"? Isn't
    it already included in Distros?<br>
    In most cases vendor's driver cannot be updated without updating
    kernel's RDMA infrastructure which, in turn, will require other
    vendors drivers to be updated or disabled.<br>
    It is not clear which components OFED will include... For the user
    space there are only two options: use the in-box version (which
    means no new features) or replace the in-box version by the newer
    upstream version as of today.<br>
    <br>
    Honestly, Distros are pretty up to date with the latest upstream
    changes, so that OFED release cycle is no shorter that most of the
    Distros release cycle. So, customers can get the latest updates just
    by upgrading to the new Distro version and this way they will
    continue to get support by Distros' vendors.<br>
    The added value of having community OFED was to provide support of
    the new features available upstream to older versions of Linux
    Distributions (when possible). But historically it did not really
    happened as most of the companies skipped on providing backports for
    their device drivers. So, it looses its value...<br>
    <br>
    Other thoughts?<br>
    <br>
    Regards,<br>
    Vladimir<br>
    <br>
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