<P>hi,</P>
<P> Is there any opensource subnet simulator? Where can i get it?</P>
<P>Abhijeet<BR><BR><B><I>"shaharf"<SHAHARF@VOLTAIRE.COM></B></I> wrote: <BR></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi </SPAN></FONT><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">abhijitngpune</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OpenSM do not know care about the topology of the network. Every connected graph is valid for it. BTW, fat tree can have cycles too. If I don’t err, the algorithm used by the OpenSM is a variation of some well known graph algorithm invented by Dijkstra or based on one of Dijkstra’s (I hope I write his name correctly) algorithm. You can find these algorithms in any graph theory text book – look for “find all shortest paths” algorithms. (for example : <A href="http://ciips.ee.uwa.edu.au/~morris/Year2/PLDS210/dijkstra.html">http://ciips.ee.uwa.edu.au/~morris/Year2/PLDS210/dijkstra.html</A> )<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Very briefly the algorithm that the opensm is using goes like that:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">1. All switches learn about themselves (hop 0) and any direct connected hosts (hop 1). They keep this information in a forwarding table that contains (schematically) the following information (the actual details are a bit more complicated to be able to support multipathing) :<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lid (local port id), out-port, hops<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">2. Now you start the hop>1 learning phase that use several passes over the switches. On every single pass, you go over all switches (the order does not matter) and within each switch you go examine any direct attached switch called “neighbor”. For every such neighbor you compare your forwarding table to neighbor table. If you find a lid that have hop count less than your hop count +1 (for the extra hop between you and the neighbor switch) you change you table entry to route that lid thought the connecting port.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">3. You repeat the above process until no table is changed during a complete pass, or until number of switch passes are done.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The correctness of this algorithm is left to the reader ;-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It seems that you are using gen1 stack and Opensm. Please be aware to the fact that gen1 tree is not supported any more. Please use gen2.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The opensm Tcl extension is not supported on gen2 and I don’t know on any plans to support it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regarding the topology example – any connected graph will do. I guess that most connected graphs are very inefficient traffic wise, but still all of them are valid.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Demonstrating that a topology is configured correctly is a bit of a problem. If you are willing to spend some efforts, you can use the topology simulator released with Melloanox Gold – look for the IBADM package. This stuff is not very well documented but it should be useable. Melloanox released (or about to release) a real subnet simulator that you can use to run opensm on top of it. Using this simulator you can test any arbitrary topology. The problem is that you have to port this simulator to gen2.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any volunteers are welcomed…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> openib-general-bounces@openib.org [mailto:openib-general-bounces@openib.org] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B><st1:PersonName w:st="on">abhijitngpune</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, March 29, 05 3:09 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> openib-general@openib.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [openib-general] OpenSM</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal dir=ltr><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hi all, I am a new to infiniband and related issues. I have some few doubts related to openSM. 1. how does openSM support the non fat tree (graph having cycles) topologies? (any research paper will do) 2. Given a graph (it contains cycles) topology how can i demonstrate that subnet manager working for this topology? 3. What is openSM tcl extension is used for? does anybody have example code for perticular (irregular/ non fat tree) topology? Abhijeet <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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