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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=509113015-19102005>Arlin,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=509113015-19102005>just
to clarify, Intel MPI will not have problems with useing less than 64
bytes</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=509113015-19102005>of
private data.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=509113015-19102005>If a solution will provide you with 48 bytes of
private data will it be sufficient?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=509113015-19102005>Arkady</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal align=left><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Arkady <SPAN
class=SpellE>Kanevsky</SPAN><SPAN
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</SPAN>email: <A
href="mailto:arkady@netapp.com">arkady@netapp.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Network
Appliance<SPAN
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</SPAN>phone: 781-768-5395<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Pond Rd.</SPAN></st1:address></st1:Street><SPAN
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</SPAN>Fax: 781-895-1195<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Waltham, MA
02451-2010<SPAN
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</SPAN>central phone: 781-768-5300<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Davis, Arlin R
[mailto:arlin.r.davis@intel.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 19, 2005
11:30 AM<BR><B>To:</B> dat-discussions@yahoogroups.com; Grant
Grundler<BR><B>Cc:</B> swg@infinibandta.org;
openib-general@openib.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [dat-discussions] RE:
[openib-general] Re: iWARP emulationprotocol<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Arkady,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Intel MPI (real
consumer of uDAPL) has no problem with this
change.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-arlin<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
dat-discussions@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dat-discussions@yahoogroups.com]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Kanevsky,
Arkady<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday,
October 19, 2005 6:40 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Grant Grundler; Caitlin Bestler<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Roland Dreier; swg@infinibandta.org;
dat-discussions@yahoogroups.com; openib-general@openib.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [dat-discussions] RE:
[openib-general] Re: iWARP emulation
protocol</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><TT><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Grant,</SPAN></FONT></TT><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">The developers of the application(s) in questions are aware
of the</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">discussion.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">I
will leave it to them to respond.</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">I bring the discussion point at the weekly DAT
Collaborative meeting</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">which we
have every Wednesday.</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">I
appologize that the DAT Collaborative charter does not
allow</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">to submit contribution
without joining DAT Collaborative.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">But this is no different from Linux not accepting any
contrubutions</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">without proper
license.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">Byt be rest assure that
as a Chair I bring the concerns</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">and suggestions stated in email discussion at the DAT
meetings.</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Arkady</FONT></TT><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">Arkady
Kanevsky
email: arkady@netapp.com</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">Network
Appliance
phone: 781-768-5395</FONT></TT><BR><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address
style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"
w:st="on"><TT><FONT face="Courier New">375 Totten Pond
Rd.</FONT></TT></st1:address></st1:Street><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">
Fax: 781-895-1195</FONT></TT><BR><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><TT><FONT face="Courier New">Waltham</FONT></TT></st1:City><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">, <st1:State w:st="on">MA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">02451-2010</st1:PostalCode></FONT></TT></st1:place><TT><FONT
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central phone: 781-768-5300</FONT></TT><BR><BR><BR><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> -----Original Message-----</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> From: Grant Grundler [mailto:iod00d@hp.com]
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> Sent: Tuesday, October 18,
2005 8:02 PM</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> To: Caitlin
Bestler</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> Cc: Grant Grundler;
Roland Dreier; Kanevsky, Arkady; </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> swg@infinibandta.org; dat-discussions@yahoogroups.com;
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
openib-general@openib.org</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
Subject: Re: [openib-general] Re: iWARP emulation
protocol</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 04:40:54PM -0700, Caitlin
Bestler wrote:</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> > >
Roland (and the rest of us) would like to see someone name
a</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> > > real consumer of
the proposed interface. ie who depends on </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > > this change?</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > > Then the dependency for that use/user can be
discussed and </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> > >
appropriate tradeoffs made. Make sense?</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
> Unfortunately not every application that is under
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> development, or even
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> > deployed, can be
discussed in a google-searchable public </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> forum. That </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > especially applies to user-mode
development.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> Well, this is open source.
While I don't want to preclude </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> closed source developement, it's usually necessary to
have an </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> open source consumer
that any open source developer can test with.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> >
So I could have actually tested such applications and still not be
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> > free to cite them
here.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> Understood. I'm not asking
*you* to cite one unless you</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
happen to own one of the consumers. </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> >
With any luck some of them</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
> are following the discussion and will jump in on their own.
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> > Unfortunately, since
they are developing to uDAPL they are </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> unlikely to </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> > be following this
discussion.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> It doesn't help that the DAT
yahoo-groups.com mailing list is </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> rejecting my replies. It would be helpful if
someone </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> following this forum
could share Roland's question with DAT </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT
face="Courier New">> mailing list if it didn't make it there already and
possibly </FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">> explain why naming
a consumer is necessary.</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
hth,</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
grant</FONT></TT><BR><TT><FONT face="Courier New">>
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