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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I agree that we should have the event in early FEB that most people can attend (week of the 6th is OK, although it stinks for Superbowl fans...:) ).</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>I see significant updates, even from our last event at the end of AUG, on all fronts: Windows (MemFree, SDP, etc.), Linux (Updates from distros, stack updates), Storage (SRP, iSER/NFSoRDMA over OpenIB directly), Virtualization, MPI, RDS, discussions about QoS, management, etc.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Comments from the last event that many wanted to attend many sessions that were concurrent as we had a windows/linux/applications session all running together. The agenda will have to allow flexibility so folks can attend both while not taking too much of people's time. Maybe run the Windows and Linux together one day and applications on another day because it seemed everyone wanted to get there.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>It will be up to the organizers and presenters to propose an agenda that is "fresh" and reduce the number of repeat slides from previous conferences. I do see the developer community growing, and as a result, some first time attendees will be seeing some info for the first time so a minimal amount of overlap for continuity isn't going to kill anyone. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Regards,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>THAD</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Bill Boas [<A HREF="mailto:bboas@llnl.gov">mailto:bboas@llnl.gov</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:55 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Roland Dreier</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Cc: Henry Brandt; Peter Haas; Head Bubba; Tziporet Koren; Peter Krey (JP Morgan) (E-mail); openib-general@openib.org; Tim Lyons (Morgan Stanley) (E-mail); openib-promoters@openib.org</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: [Openib-promoters] Re: [openib-general] Next workshop dates? Ideas for agenda???</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Roland,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>These are all excellent perspectives, I hope others will respond with </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>their view points.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Certainly repeating what we have heard already is not a good use of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>anyone's time or money but I'm under the impression that we will have </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>made some progress toward what we want to work on next as a result of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>PathForward Phase 2, input from Tom Tucker and others on OpenIB iWARP </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>integration and the HSIR meeting in NYC tomorrow.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>With respect to "release" of OpenIB rel 1.0, did Doug Ledford </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>effectively do that a week or two ago?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I think those of us ( including me) who originally thought OpenIB was </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>actually going be an organization that released and supported code </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>(like RedHat, say) had got it wrong. Now I believe that when a Linux </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>distribution, an IB company or a Tier One OEM decides that is a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>version of the code that they will support, then that is a "release". </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>OpenIB may be best utilized to try to achieve some consistency in </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>timeframe and content amongst those who wish to "release and support" </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the code???</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Bill.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>At 09:39 AM 12/12/2005, Roland Dreier wrote:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill> I think, subject to others input, it'll be focused on</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill> wrapping up rel 1.0 of OpenIB, discussing what the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill> developers are going to focus on next and validating the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill> strategy for RDMA over Ethernet integration at the verbs</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill> level to lay the foundation for one, consistent RDMA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Bill> structure in Linux, if possible.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>I'm not sure I see the point in dragging everyone together in early</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>February. With the holidays coming, realistically we only have maybe</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>5 weeks to prepare a conference agenda, and I don't see that as being</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>enough time to set up a productive meeting.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>In particular:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * wrapping up rel 1.0 -- the release process for a "1.0" release has</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> not even started. About all we could hope to accomplish would be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> to pick a release manager and tell that person to go start driving</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> a release, and I don't see that as a good use of face-to-face</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> time. It would be much better to pick someone to drive the release</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> and then give the release manager time to start putting the release</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> together before getting together, so that we have some idea of what</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> the real issues that need to be hashed out in person are.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * iWARP integration -- again, not enough discussion has taken place</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> in advance. Until the community has a chance to really study the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> proposed changes and figure out what the real difficult issues that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> need to be sorted out in person are, again it's a waste of time to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> meet in person.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> * discuss developers next steps -- perhaps I'm pessimistic but I</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> think we'll just get the same talks we've already seen twice before</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> at Sonoma and IDF.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Sonoma is a short trip for me but given the number of people that will</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>have to come from the East coast and Israel, I think we should think</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>hard about whether this conference is the best use of our time.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> - R.</FONT>
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