<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Ok getting a coffee..,</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Coulter, Susan K <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:skc@lanl.gov" target="_blank">skc@lanl.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
My bad - I failed to paste the info in the doc.<br>
Was up to my ears in a meeting when I sent the email.<br>
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> On Dec 15, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Christoph Lameter <<a href="mailto:christoph@lameter.com">christoph@lameter.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> There is no dial in information in the word doc by Susan.<br>
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> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Bernard Metzler <<a href="mailto:BMT@zurich.ibm.com">BMT@zurich.ibm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> same here. cannot join the call....<br>
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</span>> <graycol.gif>Christoph Lameter ---12/15/2016 07:03:26 PM---Ok whats the latest dial in info? My conf code seems to be outdated again. On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 1<br>
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> From: Christoph Lameter <<a href="mailto:christoph@lameter.com">christoph@lameter.com</a>><br>
> To: "Coulter, Susan K" <<a href="mailto:skc@lanl.gov">skc@lanl.gov</a>><br>
> Cc: Bernard Metzler <<a href="mailto:BMT@zurich.ibm.com">BMT@zurich.ibm.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus@lists.<wbr>openfabrics.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus@lists.<wbr>openfabrics.org</a>><br>
> Date: 12/15/2016 07:03 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Board Mtg Agenda 12/15<br>
> Sent by: <a href="mailto:christoph@graphe.net">christoph@graphe.net</a><br>
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</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Ok whats the latest dial in info? My conf code seems to be outdated again.<br>
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> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Coulter, Susan K <<a href="mailto:skc@lanl.gov">skc@lanl.gov</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Thanx Bernard.<br>
> You state the concerns clearly - and I will accept the failure to review the agreement.<br>
> The first quarter was Jul-Sep, and therefore technically should have reviewed this in late Sep.<br>
> It was my job to insure that review happened and I did not make that happen.<br>
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> My only other comment (before the discussion at 11Mtn) is:<br>
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> Saying it is “illegal” may be too strong a word.<br>
> It definitely violates our 501c6 Charter - and therefore puts that designation at risk.<br>
> So this is a serious matter either way.<br>
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> We can and will discuss this further.<br>
> Thanx again.<br>
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> > On Dec 15, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Bernard Metzler <<a href="mailto:BMT@zurich.ibm.com">BMT@zurich.ibm.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> > All,<br>
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> > In preparation of todays call, let me communicate my view on the issue of funding the position of an Executive Director by a single member of the Alliance. During Board calls time is usual short, and it is not always easy to get the audiences undivided attention on conflictive issues.<br>
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> > With early retirement of Jim Ryan, there was the proposal of his by then employer, to create the position of an Executive Director. It was further proposed to have that position financed by that employer, if and only if Jim fills that position. We extensively discussed the merits and problems of having a company sponsoring the ED position on the 06/16 Board meeting and ran a voting on that proposal on the 07/21 Board meeting. The voting was about:<br>
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> > "Motion to accept funding at $35000/quarter to be reviewed every quarter for a total of 18 months pending legal review"<br>
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> > I had (and have) severe concerns with that proposal and abstained from that vote, expecting further evaluation results would appear at latest in 3 months from then. Others seemed to have at least mixed feelings as well (we counted 6 yes votes, 1 no, 3 abstains).<br>
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> > After asking at another Board meeting in fall, I learned the result of the legal review clearly indicated that it must be considered illegal to have a single member company funding a 'ED' position. There is now this to me somewhat disturbing idea, that we can hide (from ourself?) the fact that we accept funding from a single member company for the ED position, if we do some money reshuffling/laundering. I don't like that approach.<br>
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> > But, what I dislike even more is that we do not follow our own rules. There was no serious quarterly review of that decision/vote so far. Instead, the funding now appears very natural as a monthly income row in the 2017 budget planning. Do we want to sidestep open discussion and establish a de-facto standard, where a single member company decides upon the head of the Alliance..?<br>
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> > Please don't get me wrong. This is not against having an ED of the alliance. After all, it is against having a single member company deciding, or at least being able to disproportional influence, who takes that position. As an industry alliance, we shall take care to avoid that situation. If we feel we need an acting ED, then we should all contribute an equal share of the extra funding needed.<br>
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> > Thank you,<br>
> > Bernard.<br>
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> > <graycol.gif>Bill Lee ---12/14/2016 10:45:11 PM---Attached is the latest 2017 budget for discussion. Bill<br>
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> > From: Bill Lee <Bill@Mellanox.com><br>
> > To: Paul Grun <<a href="mailto:grun@cray.com">grun@cray.com</a>>, "Coulter, Susan K" <<a href="mailto:skc@lanl.gov">skc@lanl.gov</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus@lists.<wbr>openfabrics.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus@lists.<wbr>openfabrics.org</a>><br>
> > Date: 12/14/2016 10:45 PM<br>
> > Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Board Mtg Agenda 12/15<br>
> > Sent by: "Ofa_boardplus" <<a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus-bounces@lists.<wbr>openfabrics.org</a>><br>
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> > Attached is the latest 2017 budget for discussion.<br>
> > Bill<br>
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> > From: Ofa_boardplus [mailto:<a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus-bounces@<wbr>lists.openfabrics.org</a>] On Behalf Of Paul Grun<br>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:58 AM<br>
> > To: Coulter, Susan K <<a href="mailto:skc@lanl.gov">skc@lanl.gov</a>>; <a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus@lists.<wbr>openfabrics.org</a><br>
> > Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Board Mtg Agenda 12/15<br>
> ><br>
> > These have been distributed several times over the last few weeks/months, but here they are again for easy reference.<br>
> > -Paul<br>
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> > From: Ofa_boardplus [mailto:<a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus-bounces@<wbr>lists.openfabrics.org</a>] On Behalf Of Coulter, Susan K<br>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:47 AM<br>
> > To: <a href="mailto:ofa_boardplus@lists.openfabrics.org">ofa_boardplus@lists.<wbr>openfabrics.org</a><br>
> > Subject: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Board Mtg Agenda 12/15<br>
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> ><br>
> > Please see the attached document for the agenda and call-in information.<br>
> ><br>
> > 11am Mountain[attachment "OFA 2017 Budget 161214.xlsx" deleted by Bernard Metzler/Zurich/IBM] ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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