<div dir="ltr">Jason, well said, I could not agree more. Here's what I hope is a minor clarifying point: the SoW addresses the very specific relationship we have for biz mgmnt services. It's probably needed regardless of our overall relationship w/the LF.<div><br></div><div>Whether we should have a different relationship w/the LF is worth discussing, if that's the will of this group. I'm trying to ack your point w/o creating an issue on my own</div><div><br></div><div>trying to be helpful...</div><div><br></div><div>Jim</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Jason Gunthorpe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com" target="_blank">jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 09:35:26AM -0700, Jim Ryan wrote:<br>
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> Jason, thanks. I don't know how much background you have so, at the risk of<br>
> being redundant, let me just say the notion of having a significant<br>
> relationship with the LF has been looked into, seriously, in the<br>
> past.<br>
<br>
Yes, I know.. I don't know the details however.<br>
<br>
> PS, we should separate the issue of paid staff from the LF. Again, that's just<br>
> my opinion, but I believe that strongly and I'd be happy to explain this to<br>
> anyone who is interested. I hope you know I'm prepared to be talked out of an<br>
> ill-advised position<br>
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I agree, paid staff of the contract variety is an entirely sane approach<br>
for the OFA to take at this time.<br>
<br>
However, looking forward, if full time dedicated staff become a<br>
fixture of the OFA, then treating them as actual employees with<br>
benifits is a reasonable thing to grow into - and this is exactly what<br>
the LF is doing for other similar open source organizations.<br>
<br>
So, the OFA should not, out of hand, dismiss the long term idea of<br>
having proper full time employees. It is entirely doable, but it is<br>
not something to tackle until we actually have a contract employees,<br>
and funding to support them..<br>
<br>
I wanted to point it out, since you mentioned OFA was revisiting the<br>
SOW with the LF.<br>
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Jason<br>
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