<div dir="ltr">Jason, thanks. I don't know how much background you have so, at the risk of being redundant, let me just say the notion of having a significant relationship with the LF has been looked into, seriously, in the past. I want to say immediately I'm not offering that comment to be dismissive, just that there's a lot of history here<div><br></div><div>Should we revisit some or all elements of an enhanced relationship with the LF? If so, how? Who? When?</div><div><br></div><div>We should almost certainly move away from this mislabeled thread, but where we go is an open question</div><div><br></div><div>thanks again, most sincerely, Jim</div><div><br></div><div>PS, we should separate the issue of paid staff from the LF. Again, that's just my opinion, but I believe that strongly and I'd be happy to explain this to anyone who is interested. I hope you know I'm prepared to be talked out of an ill-advised position</div><div><br></div><div>JR</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Jason Gunthorpe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com" target="_blank">jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 08:29:12AM -0700, Jim Ryan wrote:<br>
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> - 7 Budget: I don't think the use of the term "hire" in various forms is<br>
> necessarily wrong, but I believe it has connotations that aren't useful. I<br>
> don't think the OFA should ever "hire" anyone -- all that makes sense is<br>
> various contract services, all engaged at the discretion of the OFA<br>
<br>
FWIW, the Linux Foundation will hire full time staff if their<br>
Collaborative Projects can provide the budget. Other projects are<br>
supported this way, and the LF has many people on staff under this<br>
sort of umbrella. The LF takes care of everything except the funding.<br>
<br>
Eg:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/careers/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linuxfoundation.<wbr>org/about/careers/</a><br>
<br>
If the OFA is serious about having full time paid workers then<br>
it would make sense to revisting becoming a LF collaborative project<br>
to gain this kind of administrative support.<br>
<br>
The Intern approach OPNFV project is using may also be interesting for<br>
the OFA as would be a way to fund project based development like Sean<br>
was talking about.<br>
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Jason<br>
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