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<div class="">In my opinion, the dual license issue is dead and has been for a while.</div>
<div class="">What I mean by that is - the ship has sailed - regardless of how or why.</div>
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It is my understanding from a recent side conversation that dual license was never really expected to hold.
<div class="">Dual license was agreed to early on to help the OFA members who needed and relied on it.</div>
<div class="">It was more or less a given (amongst some) that as the code base matured and disseminated, it would be nearly impossible to retain.</div>
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<div class="">When Jason and company moved the code base from OFA to github, he immediately reviewed the state of the licenses.</div>
<div class="">There were ~7 different licenses and we already had non-dual-license code in the repo.</div>
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<div class="">So … </div>
<div class="">It is a fact that dual license was broken before the repo was moved.</div>
<div class="">The word “control” is pretty strong; we probably should use “steward”.</div>
<div class="">The OFA was, in fact, the steward of the code in the beginning and as it gained acceptance.</div>
<div class="">Whether or not the OFA actually failed as a “steward” is not a question I can answer, but I am open to the fact that we may have been remiss.</div>
<div class="">There are other OFA programs and processes that have atrophied and/or we were remiss in staying actively on top of.</div>
<div class="">It is >possible< we missed a step somewhere.</div>
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<div class="">I’m not saying these things to flog ourselves, but to honestly look at our path.</div>
<div class="">As my husband and I like to ask at critical junctures: “Where are we, how did we get here, and where are we going?"</div>
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<div class="">On Mar 15, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Paul Grun <<a href="mailto:grun@cray.com" class="">grun@cray.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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I want to find closure on one open source/dual license item discussed today.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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It seems that there is broad agreement in the value of open source. There is also some demand to continue to maintain dual licensing.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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In the early days, OFA code (called OFS) was maintained in an OFA repo created per the bylaws.<o:p class=""></o:p>
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Hence the OFA could enforce the dual license provisions because the OFA controlled the maintainer of that repo.<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul>
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But since OFS was open source, anybody could fork the repo and effectively deprecate the OFA repo, which is what happened. <o:p class=""></o:p>
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Once the open source community made the choice to fork the code and assign maintainers, the OFA could no longer rigorously enforce dual license provisions, except by a gentleman’s / gentlewoman’s agreement.<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul>
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The OFA could not have prevented that from happening.<o:p class=""></o:p>
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There are reasons why the community chose to do so (e.g. dissatisfaction with an absentee maintainer or other reasons) that perhaps the OFA could address<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoListParagraph" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
But at the end of the day, there is no legal agreement that would prevent that from happening if someone were motivated to do so.<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul>
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Hence, in my view, the notion of losing control is illusory, since no such control exists, because OFS was open source.<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul>
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Please educate me if this isn’t accurate.<o:p class=""></o:p></div>
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