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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks and I’m in agreement, of course. I was looking at appropriate processes and procedures for developing the “framework”. These were meant to be complimentary to the established open process, and in no way
detrimental to it. I should have been clearer on that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regards, Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Woodruff, Robert J <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Grun; Ryan, Jim; 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K'; Rimmer, Todd; Wood, Donald E; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (rsdance@soft-forge.com); Berry, Frank; Hefty, Sean; Stachura, Tom L; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (Brad.Benton@amd.com);
'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; Sur, Sayantan; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (rebecca@openfabrics.org); 'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell
(dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K'; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (rsdance@soft-forge.com); Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (Brad.Benton@amd.com); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; 'Avneesh
Pant'; Rebecca Moran (rebecca@openfabrics.org); 'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">Ø<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style="color:#1F497D">Woody – I don’t completely disagree, but there is a bit of a chicken and egg problem w.r.t. creating a set of working group processes and procedures. How do the chairs go about suggesting and approving
formal adoption of the working group processes and procedures? There is also a requirement in the bylaws that working group policies and procedures by approved or ratified by the Board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Ok, I suppose that is fair. Let’s continue the discussion of agreeing on the specifics of the proposed processes and voting rules that Jim sent through email. We should also discuss the processes for submitting
code (as I assume in the end that there will be some code that is at least one of the products of the WG), and for that, I would suggest we stick with the open source process that we already use for developing all the rest of the OFA SW components. For things
like high level requirements and specific proposals put forth, we may need to vote to get agreement on proceeding forward with a specific proposal or idea.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Sound OK ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Woody<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Paul Grun [<a href="mailto:grun@cray.com">mailto:grun@cray.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Woodruff, Robert J; Ryan, Jim; 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K'; Rimmer, Todd; Wood, Donald E; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (<a href="mailto:rsdance@soft-forge.com">rsdance@soft-forge.com</a>); Berry, Frank; Hefty, Sean;
Stachura, Tom L; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (<a href="mailto:Brad.Benton@amd.com">Brad.Benton@amd.com</a>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; Sur, Sayantan; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (<a href="mailto:rebecca@openfabrics.org">rebecca@openfabrics.org</a>); 'Goldiez,
Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan
K'; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (<a href="mailto:rsdance@soft-forge.com">rsdance@soft-forge.com</a>); Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (<a href="mailto:Brad.Benton@amd.com">Brad.Benton@amd.com</a>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (<a href="mailto:rebecca@openfabrics.org">rebecca@openfabrics.org</a>);
'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Woody – I don’t completely disagree, but there is a bit of a chicken and egg problem w.r.t. creating a set of working group processes and procedures. How do the chairs go about suggesting and approving formal
adoption of the working group processes and procedures? There is also a requirement in the bylaws that working group policies and procedures by approved or ratified by the Board.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Keep in mind that we do have an official chair now since one could argue that Jim is our board-approved chair until the board changes that. So it seems like a good idea to begin the discussion of governing documents
now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Your 2 cents, plus mine = 4 cents. At this rate, we’ll all be rich very soon.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Woodruff, Robert J [<a href="mailto:robert.j.woodruff@intel.com">mailto:robert.j.woodruff@intel.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan, Jim; 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K'; Rimmer, Todd; Wood, Donald E; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (<a href="mailto:rsdance@soft-forge.com">rsdance@soft-forge.com</a>); Berry, Frank; Hefty, Sean; Stachura, Tom L; Paul
Grun; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (<a href="mailto:Brad.Benton@amd.com">Brad.Benton@amd.com</a>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; Sur, Sayantan; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (<a href="mailto:rebecca@openfabrics.org">rebecca@openfabrics.org</a>); 'Goldiez, Brian';
'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K';
'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (<a href="mailto:rsdance@soft-forge.com">rsdance@soft-forge.com</a>); Paul Grun; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (<a href="mailto:Brad.Benton@amd.com">Brad.Benton@amd.com</a>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran
(<a href="mailto:rebecca@openfabrics.org">rebecca@openfabrics.org</a>); 'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu
(cantuc)'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4"><![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">Ø<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]>I’m taking a relatively aggressive position by suggesting practices and procedures from the Guidelines, primarily. This is instead of raising an issue and saying, in effect, “what do you think?” Instead, I’m offering a position
and asking you to support it or argue with it<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Are we getting a little ahead of ourselves here.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Should these items wait to be decided until after the co-chairs are actually named ? I think it should be left<br>
up to the co-chairs to propose the rules by which the working group will follow. Perhaps we can start the discussions now,<br>
but I would think that it would ultimately be up to the co-chairs to suggest and approve formal adoption of the working groups
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processes and procedures. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My 2 cents.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Woody<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Ryan, Jim
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K'; Rimmer, Todd; Woodruff, Robert J; Wood, Donald E; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (<a href="mailto:rsdance@soft-forge.com">rsdance@soft-forge.com</a>); Berry, Frank; Hefty, Sean; Stachura,
Tom L; <a href="mailto:grun@cray.com">grun@cray.com</a>; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (<a href="mailto:Brad.Benton@amd.com">Brad.Benton@amd.com</a>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; Sur, Sayantan; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (<a href="mailto:rebecca@openfabrics.org">rebecca@openfabrics.org</a>);
'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'openframeworkwg@lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter,
Susan K'; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (<a href="mailto:rsdance@soft-forge.com">rsdance@soft-forge.com</a>);
<a href="mailto:grun@cray.com">grun@cray.com</a>; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (<a href="mailto:Brad.Benton@amd.com">Brad.Benton@amd.com</a>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (<a href="mailto:rebecca@openfabrics.org">rebecca@openfabrics.org</a>);
'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio@mellanox.com'; 'linden@cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m sorry for the length of the attached, but I don’t believe there’s any way around it. I reviewed the OFA Bylaws and the IBTA Guidelines for suggestions as to how to identify the areas we touched on in our meeting yesterday, and additional
areas suggested by the Guidelines themselves.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’m taking a relatively aggressive position by suggesting practices and procedures from the Guidelines, primarily. This is instead of raising an issue and saying, in effect, “what do you think?” Instead, I’m offering a position and asking
you to support it or argue with it<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’m hoping we can make significant progress by email to set up another productive meeting on Tuesday<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Jim Ryan
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