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<p class="MsoNormal">ORNL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mellanox<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chelsio<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Oracle<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">LLNL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Unisys<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Broadcom<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Intel<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">OSU<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">LANL<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Accelerated Verbs discussion<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Liran presented<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Are accelerated Verbs applicable to multiple architectures?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>As an interface specification, there is no dependency on a specific architecture<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Concern re. type vs. OOP approach<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>The robustness benefits of an OOP approach seem to out-weight the relative overhead, which seems to be negligible in real-world applications since apps already hold additional context information related
to the notion of an endpoint.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>In any case, we should quantify these tradeoffs with actual empirical data<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Accelerated family completeness and inter-dependencies<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>If a provider supports an interface, all functions contained in this interface must be implemented<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>No explicit dependencies are defined between families, so providers are free to mix and match the families that are supported<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Version info seems useful<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>To relate between 2 families that one is an extension to the other<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Each new version must return all functions of previous versions<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Similar to OOP single-inheritance<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Another advantage is that code simplicity is maintained regardless of the version of an interface<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Device capabilities and Accelerated Verbs:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Accelerated verbs do not introduce new features that aren’t already supported according to an existing provider device capabilities<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>This means that applications can *<b>always</b>* fall back to the standard Verbs supported by a given provider<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>While the granularity of device capabilities are implicit by the definition of the specific capability, the granularity of Accelerated Verbs are explicit<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>The query_intf() call could be used both to query availability and obtain the interface<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>If an interface is returned, it is always complete<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>If query_intf() fails, it could be useful to elaborate on the reason of the failure. For example:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Interface not supported by the provider<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Incorrect object type<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Incorrect version (+ latest supported version)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:Wingdings"><span style="mso-list:Ignore">§<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Incorrect object state<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>It is important to standardize the name-space of interface families in advance<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>So programmers can know about common prefixes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<![if !supportLists]><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><span style="mso-list:Ignore">o<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>To prevent name-space collisions between vendors<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Verbs extensions discussion<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Tzahi Oved presented<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Tzahi gave a brief introduction<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>The discussion will continue next week<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Gilad proposed to take UCX, a SHMEM communication library being developed by ORNL and other organizations, bring it into the working group and use it as the first case for designing Accelerated Verbs<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>UCX is library that will be used in future systems and for future applications<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Fits the charter of the working group<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>A great candidate for enhancing the verbs interface<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>Potentially can be included in the working group distribution<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><span style="mso-list:Ignore">-<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><![endif]><span dir="LTR"></span>There was a discussion in the WG, no objection raised, Pasha and Liran supported the proposal, so approved<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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Gilad Shainer <o:p></o:p></p>
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Office: 408-916-0048, Mobile: 408-421-0048, Fax: 408-585-0348 <o:p></o:p></p>
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