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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here is what happens when someone uses
HTML format.  See the line along the left of the quoted message?  It
doesn’t break when someone starts to write something, so in effect it
does nothing – it’s just a nuisance.  Which is why color is so
important – it makes up for the inherently bad quoting style provided by
HTML email.  People usually give up and top post, which makes it harder to
follow a thread.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#ffff99" face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#FFFF99'>Color doesn’t
make text easier to read.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face="Edwardian Script ITC"><span
style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Edwardian Script ITC"'>Fonts don’t
make text easier to read, either</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There’s also a size issue – if
you look at the message you sent, and compare the size between the HTML format
you sent and a plain text format, you will see that the HTML is 10K while the
plain text is 6K.  That’s a considerable difference.  You can
try this yourself to verify this – make a copy of the sent message, then
open the copy, select <Edit><Edit Message>, then
<Format><Plain Text>.  Now save the message and compare the size
to the original.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When sending patches inline, it’s
easier if they aren’t in some fancy font – plain text lets code
look like code.  It also lets the recipient save the message and apply the
patch without needing an attachment.</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So plain text:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- is easier to read (for English, which is
the primary language on the openib-windows list)</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- is smaller to send and receive over the
network</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- is harder to make careless mistakes like
embedding multi-megabyte bitmaps, tables, graphs and whatnot</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- lets code look like code</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- lets messages be used as patches without
attachments</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- provides better quoting style for
putting inline responses</span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>More comments below – if you can
find them</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Tzachi Dar</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
[mailto:tzachid@mellanox.co.il] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, August 12, 2005 8:53
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>'openib-windows@openib.org'</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Openib-windows] Plain
text and HTML mail format</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hi everyone,</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In the last week or so, someone has sent a mail saying that
there is some problem with "html mails" and the conclusion was that
we should start using "plain text".</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I'm not saying that "html" is a perfect format,
but most people do find it useful. There are probably many other formats that
might be used (for example rtf). </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I believe that if we want to use a different format than
html, this should be fine, but the new format should support at least the
following capabilities;  </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>1)</span></font><font size=1 color=navy><span style='font-size:
7.0pt;color:navy'>   </span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Enable different fonts.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>   </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Enable different
colors.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The only indication here that I wrote
something is the color, unless I prefix my comment with something like [Fab
says], but that prefix only applies to the first line of the paragraph.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>3)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>   </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Enable inserting of
tables.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>4)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>   </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Enable inserting of
graphs.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>5)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>   </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Enable "auto
numbering"</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Typing numbers isn’t that hard, so
this is really of minimal value.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>6)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>   </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Allow more
languages. I'm not saying that the format should support any language in the
world, but the minimum is to support any language that at least 1,000,000,000
people speak and write (for example Chinese and Arabic). Of course other people
might suggest other bars here.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I get an email in Arabic or Chinese, I
won’t be able to read it, so the format won’t matter.  Feel
free to use HTML when sending me messages in those languages.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>7)</span></font><font
size=1><span style='font-size:7.0pt'>   </span></font><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Allow writing in
both directions (did I mention Arabic ?).</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>.esu yna fo eb t’now cibarA ni
gnihtemos em gnidnes os, cibarA dear t’nac I ,niagA.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>(Again, I can’t read Arabic, so
sending me something in Arabic won’t be of any use.)  Writing
English right-to-left doesn’t have any value.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>If anyone else has more requirements than please answer this
mail, and the entire openib-windows can choose the new format. </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Comments please (Currently at all formats).</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Tzachi</span></font></p>

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