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color=#0000ff size=2>Windows event log only shows ipoib up/down states, no
further errors.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org
[mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Tzachi
Dar<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 03, 2007 2:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
stanleysufficool@roadrunner.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> ofw<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ofw]
Windows Update and IB stack versions<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Can
you please check if there are any messages in the event log of the windows
machines that are related to IPOIB?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>By the
way, are all your systems using the same IB speed? (that is is there a
mixture between SDR and DDR?)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Unfortunately, we don't have access to such a switch, so will you be able
to allow us to have a remote access to your system?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=074584520-03092007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Tzachi</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org
[mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Stanley
Sufficool<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, August 31, 2007 7:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Tzachi
Dar<BR><B>Cc:</B> ofw<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [ofw] Windows Update and IB stack
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<DIV></DIV>This switch does not seem to allow for disabling of the embedded
SM. This embedded SM would and has caused conflicts with OpenSM in managing
the ports.<BR><BR>I've had more success with the Win to Lin IPoIB connectivity
than Win to Win connectivity. However, I'm unable to establish a pattern of
failure.<BR><BR>2 each Gentoo Linux, AMD Opteron 1GB, HP Lion Cub 128
MB, Gentoo kernel 2.6.22.x IB Drivers & ULPs<BR>8 each Windows x64, AMD
Opteron 2GB, Voltaire 400Ex-D 128MB, WinIB gen1 (Mellanox Distro)
Drivers & ULPs<BR>2 Each Cisco 7000P 24 - Port SFS IB Switch<BR><BR>On
Fri, 2007-08-31 at 12:04 +0300, Tzachi Dar wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Hi,</FONT></FONT>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>So far the testing
of WinIB and Linux gen2 have been done using opensm and not managment
switch. So if possibale, can you please try to run opensm and see if it
solves your problem?</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>In any case, can
you please give us more details about the problem. I'm interested in the
following:</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>1) Is the windows
to windows connectivity not working or only Linux-windows?</FONT></FONT>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>2) Can you look at
the event log of the windows machines and let us know if there is data there
?</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff>Thanks</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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color=#0000ff>Tzachi</FONT></FONT> </BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000>From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org
[mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] </FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><B><FONT size=2>On Behalf Of </FONT></B></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2>ssufficool</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000>Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> Friday, August 31, 2007 8:42
AM</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
ofw</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
RE: [ofw] Windows Update and IB stack
versions</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=#000000>I'm having Sporadic connectivity with
IPoIB using the WinIB stack on MLX Infinihost II Ex HCAs and Cisco 7000P
switches with integrated SM (on the switch). Is there a specific power on
sequence I should be using or other considerations?</FONT><BR><BR><FONT
color=#000000>Also, are there any compatibility issues with using OFED
gen2 and WinIB gen1 stacks? I have been having nothing but headaches with
IPoIB and SRP.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=#000000>Please help. Thank
you.</FONT><BR><BR><FONT color=#000000>On Sun, 2007-08-26 at 12:43 +0300,
Leonid Keller wrote: </FONT><BR>
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color=#0000ff>Hi,</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>The version of WHQL'ed drivers are
1.3.0.1984.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Inrease minor version to 4 and rebuild the
drivers you are using to get 1.4.0.X version.</FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Then WU won't
trouble you more.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000> </FONT><BR><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Leonid</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#000000>
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<BR><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000>From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org
[mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] </FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><B><FONT size=2>On Behalf Of </FONT></B></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2>Jan Bottorff</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000>Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> Friday, August 24, 2007 1:44
PM</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
Tzachi Dar; ofw@lists.openfabrics.org</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000>Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> RE: [ofw] Windows Update and IB stack
versions</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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color=#000080>Hi,</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000080> </FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000080>As far as I can tell, Windows Update should offer mthca
and probably the IB bus driver (although at the moment they don’t seem
to show up). It basically matches on PnP id and driver date. The if
PnP is the same as what’s installed, and the WU driver date is newer,
WU offers it as an update. The paper at </FONT></FONT><FONT
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href="http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/maintain/WU_logic.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/maintain/WU_logic.mspx</A>
explains the logic.</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Windows Update I don’t believe will force a driver
update on you, but it does offer it if you select custom (which I
always do just see what MSFT thinks they should do to my system before
they do it). Some users will just periodically install whatever has
been updated (good for security patches, bad in this driver
case).</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Jan</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000080> </FONT></FONT><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>
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color=#000000>From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
Tzachi Dar [mailto:tzachid@mellanox.co.il] </FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000>Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> Friday, August 24, 2007 12:27
AM</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
Jan Bottorff; ofw@lists.openfabrics.org</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000>Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> RE: [ofw] Windows Update and IB stack
versions</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Is the
problem you are seeing specific to IPOIB or does it happen also for
other drivers?</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff>What I mean is this: It seems that one can easily solve
the problem for ipoib but what happens for the bus driver and the low
level driver (mthca.sys). Are they also replaced by windows
update?</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>It
seems that solving the problem for IPOIB can be done, but what
about other components?</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff>Thanks</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#0000ff>Tzachi</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><BR>
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color=#000000>From:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT
size=2> ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org
[mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] </FONT></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><B><FONT size=2>On Behalf Of </FONT></B></FONT><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2>Jan Bottorff</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000>Sent:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT
color=#000000><FONT size=2> Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:30
AM</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>To:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=2>
ofw@lists.openfabrics.org</FONT></FONT><BR><B><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Subject:</FONT></FONT></B><FONT color=#000000><FONT
size=2> [ofw] Windows Update and IB stack
versions</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT color=#000000>I see
the WHQL signed IPoIB drivers are on Windows Update now. This brings
to light a problem in the IB stack.</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000> </FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#000000>The issue is the PnP hardware id’s
generated by the IB bus for virtual devices are not version
specific. This means if I install the latest IB stack build, Windows
Update will still offer to update my IPoIB drivers, even though they
probably would be incompatible with the other IB stack components.
The WHQL drivers are approximately build 614, and I know the IBAL
interface has new functions and a new version number in the current
build. There is absolutely nothing to tell Windows Update that
drivers for PnP hardware id “IBA\IPoIB” in version 614 of the IB
stack will not work on a stack looking for say the 758 build of the
PnP hardware id “IBA\IPoIB”.</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>It seems like some version number and optionally a
vendor unique id needs to be part of all the PnP id’s generated, to
assure updates only happen between compatible components.
</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000> </FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
color=#000000>Jan</FONT></FONT><BR><BR><FONT size=2><FONT
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