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<DIV><SPAN class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Please
see inline ..</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Fab Tillier
[mailto:ftillier@windows.microsoft.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 30,
2008 8:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Reuven Amitai;
ofw@lists.openfabrics.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Removing MFT tools from
svn<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;>Will the FW package on the Mellanox downloads page work
and be supported with any binaries built from the WinOF SVN source? Is
Mellanox stepping up to support this, and release new versions whenever a change
to the drivers is checked into SVN would break a previous version?<SPAN
class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><SPAN class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>[Reuven]</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>
The new FW package doesn't work directly with IBAL. It's independent which has
the benefit in case of inability to install WinOF from any
reason.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;>I’m very weary of having the WinOF SVN become (or rather
having already become) a second class repository where members periodically dump
large amounts of code to bring it up to date with their own internal tree.
I wish people would treat the WinOF SVN more as the primary source repository
for Windows. Community members don’t have visibility in the various
vendor’s internal trees to see the detailed change history, and that information
is lost when large patches are merged in to bring things up to date.<SPAN
class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><SPAN class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>[Reuven]</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>First, you are right that it's more desirable that WinOF svn will be the
primary repository. We are in the middle of movement toward achieving that
goal.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><SPAN class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>nevertheless, there is still difficulties to work with it
(just one to mention: lag for every simple command). Tools
directories synchronized less often. (OFED MFT tools are one major
version ahead). </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><SPAN class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Is it preferred to leave it like that ? delete stale
directories (which ones except fwupdate)? or live with outdated tools sources (I
don't know how often they will updated)</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><SPAN class=501422717-30042008></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><SPAN class=501422717-30042008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;>-Fab<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:#1F497D?
Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Tahoma?,?sans-serif??>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Tahoma?,?sans-serif??>
ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org [mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Reuven Amitai<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:51
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Fab Tillier; ofw@lists.openfabrics.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [ofw]
RE: Removing MFT tools from svn<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:blue?
Arial?,?sans-serif?;>My intentions were naive. I suggest to remove these tools
because I wonder who uses these tools directly.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:blue?
Arial?,?sans-serif?;>There is different package (for Mellanox HCAs) that
dedicated for fw tasks which is up to date. Why not use it
?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:blue?
Arial?,?sans-serif?;>I understand that OFED insist that the code will be part
from the distribution.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:blue?
Arial?,?sans-serif?;>Is there need just to maintain and update the code
here only for review ?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:blue?
Arial?,?sans-serif?;>Are there tools that no one use and can be removed
(fwupdate, anything else ?)</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " color:blue?
Arial?,?sans-serif?;>Reuven.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "
Tahoma?,?sans-serif??>From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: " Tahoma?,?sans-serif??> Fab Tillier
[mailto:ftillier@windows.microsoft.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 30,
2008 7:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Reuven Amitai;
ofw@lists.openfabrics.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Removing MFT tools from
svn</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Ask yourself this: are you planning on removing the FW update
utility from OFED and let it be provided by vendors only? If not, why
would you treat the Windows release differently?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>FW update functionality should be part of WinOF. Not
everyone uses vendor releases. There are some stale directories, for sure –
fwupdate is one – and those should be deleted. The rest should be kept
current.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>-Fab<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org
[mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Reuven
Amitai<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:16 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
ofw@lists.openfabrics.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [ofw] Removing MFT tools from
svn<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I suggest that the following directories will be removed
from svn repository :<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>fwupdate, flint, mread, mwrite, mst, spark (all located under
trunk\tools).<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>These tools aren't part of WinOF release and should be
supplied by the HCA vendor.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Moreover, the tools aren't updated (1.0.1.2676 version while
2.1.0.4337 at OFED - Linux. I got the versions from other
svn)<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>What do you think about it?<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><EM>Thanks, Reuven.</EM><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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