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<title>RE: [ofw] WDK build environment migration thoughts</title>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s not just the branches.  Part
of the problem is that I cannot commit changes locally, then update them later,
before pushing out a single set of changes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For example, while I’m working on a
set of changes related to implementing WinVerbs, I discover that some changes
are needed in ib_types, or ib_ci.  There’s not an easy way for me to
encapsulate those changes separately.  And if multiple, unrelated changes
need to go into those same files, the problem gets worse.  I frequently
come across areas of code that need to be modified while working on unrelated
changes, and svn makes dealing with this situation difficult.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, I view part of the problem as a
developer issue, but the tools aren’t helping us.  I tried using git
on windows, but hit into several issues trying to maintain patches in git but
keeping in sync with the svn repository upstream.  Part of the problem was
the differences in line endings between Windows and Unix, which resulted in
changed files showing every line as different.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Maybe there are some patch management
tools that layer over svn repositories that can help with this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- Sean<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I believe that the main reason that we
have came to this mess with SVN was because almost all development activity was
done in separate branches. (I believe that there have been more branches
than active developers).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There was also a problem with the compiler
that we probably didn't solve in the correct way. This problem has forced us to
open more branches as well.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I believe that now that we are over this
problems, things should probably work better.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>In any case, it is possibale that git will
work better than SVN, but we are not really sure that it will work well on
windows. We need someone brave enough to try working with it for some time.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Please also note that in the coming SVN
release it should support branching, which might also make our lives simpler.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Tzachi</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org [mailto:ofw-bounces@lists.openfabrics.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sean Hefty<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 30, 2008
8:54 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Fab Tillier'; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on"><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Alex</st1:PersonName> Naslednikov</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Smith, Stan</st1:PersonName>; Ishai Rabinovitz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> ofw@lists.openfabrics.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [ofw] WDK build
environment migration thoughts</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If it’s better, then we can ask OFA
to purchase copies for maintainers.  We can make source code available via
zip files if people want it.  Personally, if git works, I’d like to
use that.  SVN just simply cannot do an adequate job and leaves us in
ginormous patch blob limbo.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Bitkeeper is no
longer free for open source projects, sadly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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