[fsdpwg] Updated FSDP slide deck

[p.grun55 at gmail.com]

Your explanation of slide 5 helps.  Not knowing anything at all about other such services, the point was lost on me; I'll bet I'm not alone.  
The very good point you are trying to make is to emphasize the value of the FSDP to the upstream community.  Given the introductory nature of the deck, can you simplify this slide so that it does not rely on knowing what Intel Day-0/Syzkaller are in order to get your point across?  
-Paul

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From: Doug Ledford <dledford at redhat.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:17 AM
To: p grun55 <p.grun55 at gmail.com>
Cc: fsdpwg at lists.openfabrics.org; Divya Kolar <divya.kolar at intel.com>; Jim Ryan <jimdryan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Updated FSDP slide deck

BTW, we discussed this and made changes to it at yesterday's fsdpwg meeting, so a few of your comments are stale (but not many).

Further comments in-line below:

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> Slide 3 - Glad to see this slide, I was thinking about something like 
> this when reviewing Divya's original deck.
> Slide 3 - Waaay too much detail in the top blue box.  Doug, you have a 
> tendency to dive into detail when it's not called for which distracts 
> from the message and takes your audience off track. Same comment on Slide 5.

Significantly pared down text on slide.

> Slide 4 - Should include a "logo program, if desired" bullet to the 
> Distros line.

Done.

> Slide 4 - just a suggestion, but it's worth it to keep each bullet to 
> a single line.  Suggest deleting "...prior to launch".  It's not 
> necessarily limited to that.

Done.

> Slide 5 - I don't get the point behind the sub title.  Actually, this 
> whole slide confuses me.  What's the message?  Is it crucial to this 
> high level overview?

Yes, I think it is crucial.  There are currently two companies running completely free, dedicated upstream services.  Google with Syzkaller and Intel with 0-day.  Both of these services are seen by the kernel development community as great boons to the overall development process and the general feeling from kernel developers is one of high good will towards the companies making this commitment to the quality and success of upstream kernels.  We talk about how the cluster will be doing upstream CI, but we need to emphasize that this is not just a use of the FSDP cluster, this use constitutes a service provided to the upstream community.  We will become only the third organization to make this sort of commitment to the betterment of the upstream community, and that's a *big* deal.  This is going to engender a large amount of goodwill towards the OFA.  It's also going to constitute something that member companies can brag about when talking to people in the halls at conferences: "Hey, yeah, we're OFA members and we help keep the upstream RDMA CI service going."  This slide allows me to drive that point home.  I think it's a *huge* deal.  I've cleaned up the slide to make it more clear though.

> Slide 8 - too chatty.  Don't write in sentences.  Most of what's here 
> is what the presenter should be speaking to, not on the slide.

Shortened.  Also drastically reformatted.

> Slide 10 - again, the word "certified" makes me nervous.  "Defined" is 
> accurate and concise.

Certified appears multiple places on that slide, I assume you meant the hardware definition line.  Changed.  Other places not changed.

> Slide 11 - better!
> Slide 13 - as mentioned earlier, a reference to "Works of Authorship 
> Working Groups" is waaay too much detail for this slide deck.  
> Sufficient (and
> accurate) to say, "...will have no vote in Working Groups".

Done.

> Slide 15 - same comment as before - I don't know what "multples siting 
> options" means.

Backup = Boneyard ;-)

Updated slide deck attached.

> -Paul
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> From: Doug Ledford <dledford at redhat.com>
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> grun55 <p.grun55 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Updated FSDP slide deck
> 
> To go over at today's meeting.  I made updates to the deck Divya sent 
> yesterday (off-list).  Added a few slides, deleted a slide that was in 
> there twice, moved two slides to the backup section because I didn't 
> think they contributed enough to the overall deck and the deck was too 
> long, did some wording changes on about half of the slides, and did some word art changes.
> Please review ahead of time so we can cover it more quickly.  At this 
> point, my biggest gripe is that there are obvious stylistic 
> differences between the slides I put in and the previous ones :-/.
> 
> BTW, in the future, I'm going to start dropping Cc:es and only send 
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