Eitan> Results with - ERR 1B10: Provided Join State != FullMember Eitan> - required for create. You can not create a group if you Eitan> are not a full member. Right. However, ScopeState is dumped as 0x1, which means bit 0 of JoinState (the FullMember bit) is in fact set, so OpenSM should create the group. Thanks, Roland