[Rdma-developers] Re: [openib-general] OpenIB and OpenRDMA: Convergence on common RDMAAPIs and ULPs for Linux

Michael Krause krause at cup.hp.com
Tue May 31 14:31:19 PDT 2005


At 06:47 AM 5/28/2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 05:17:54AM -0700, Sukanta ganguly wrote:
> > That's a pretty bold statement. Linux grew up to be
> > popular via mass acceptance. Seems like that charter
> > has changed and a few have control over Linux and its
> > future. The "My way or the highway" philosophy has
> > gotten embedded in the Linux way of life.
> > Life is getting tough.
>
>You're totally missing the point.  Linux is successfull exactly
>because it's lookinf for the right solution, not something the
>business people need short-term.

Hence why some of us contend that the end-game, i.e. the right solution, is 
not necessarily the short-term implementation that is present today that 
just evolves creating that legacy inertia that I wrote about earlier.  I 
think there is validity to having an implementation to critique - accept, 
reject, modify.  I think there is validity to examining industry standards 
as the basis for new work / implementation.  If people are unwilling to 
discuss these standards and only stay focused on their business people's 
short-term needs, then some might contend as above that Linux is evolving 
to be much like the dreaded Pacific NW company in the end.  Not intending 
to offend anyone but if there can be no debate without implementation on 
what is the right solution, then people might as well just go off and 
implement and propose their solution for incorporation into the Linux 
kernel.  It may be that OpenIB "wins" in the end or it may be that it does 
not.  Just having OpenIB subsume control of anything iWARP or impose only 
DAPL for all RDMA infrastructure because it just happens to be there today 
seems rather stifling.  Just stating that some OpenIB steering group is 
somehow empowered to decide this for Linux is also rather strange.  Open 
source is about being open and not under the control of any one entity in 
the end.   Perhaps that is no longer the case.

Mike 
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