[openib-general] [PATCH 0/6] osm: QoS policy parser

Hal Rosenstock halr at voltaire.com
Fri Jan 26 13:42:53 PST 2007


Hi again Yevgeny,

On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:53, Yevgeny Kliteynik wrote: 
> Hi Hal.
> 
> Hal Rosenstock wrote:
> > Hi Yevgeny,
> > 
> > On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 09:10, Yevgeny Kliteynik wrote:
> >> Hi Hal, Sasha.
> >>
> >> Here's a description of the QoS policy file, and an
> >> example of such file (with more comments inside).
> > 
> > This makes the start of a good document on this. If you add this to
> > osm/doc, I will incorporate it into the opensm man page.
> 
> OK, I'll do that.
> 
> >> QoS Policy file
> >> --
> >>
> >> The QoS policy file is divided into 4 sub sections:
> >>
> >> * Node Group: a set of HCAs, Routers or Switches that share the same settings. 
> >>   A node groups might be a partition defined by the partition manager policy in 
> >>   terms of GUIDs.
> > 
> > Are these Node or Port Groups ? It looks like port groups from the
> > below.
> 
> Good point - it should be "Port Groups".
> 
> >>  Future implementations might provide support for NodeDescription 
> >>   based definition of node groups.
> >>
> >> * Fabric Setup: 
> >>   Defines how the SL2VL and VLArb tables should be setup. This policy definition 
> >>   assumes the computation of target behavior should be performed outside of 
> >>   OpenSM.
> >>
> >> * QoS-Levels Definition:
> >>   This section defines the possible sets of parameters for QoS that a client might 
> >>   be mapped to. Each set holds: SL and optionally: Max MTU, Max Rate, Path Bits 
> >>   (in case LMC > 0 is used for QoS) and TClass.
> > 
> > How does this relate to/interact with partition configuration ? Also,
> > what about preexisting QoS ?
> 
> As I understand from the osm man or from the partition-config.txt,
> partitions definition is intended to be used for IPoIB only.
>    [quote]
> 	sl=<val> - specifies SL for this IPoIB MC group
>         	   (default is 0)
>    [/quote]
> 
> I think that QoS policy may only "tighten" the constraints and enforce
> lower-than-requested values, both in case of partition and in case of
> preexisting QoS settings.

I'm not following you on this specific point. A specific SL is chosen by
partition config so how can it be "tightened" ? Does it mean it might be
changed to a different SL (in which case this QoS config superceeds the
partition config for SL setting) ? Have you tried this to be sure ? 

Are multicast groups handled as part QoS definition in the XML syntax ?
If not, might this be a future addition ? If it is, how are they
specified ?

The other half of the original question was how a QoS request is handled
if the original QoS support is enabled rather than this new QoS support
in terms of the SA PR and MPR code.

> >> * Matching Rules:
> >>   A list of rules that match an incoming PathRecord request to a QoS-Level. The 
> >>   rules are processed in order such as the first match is applied. Each rule is 
> >>   built out of set of match expressions which should all match for the rule to 
> >>   apply. The matching expressions are defined for the following fields
> >>     - SRC and DST to lists of node groups
> >>     - Service-ID to a list of Service-ID or Service-ID ranges
> >>     - TClass to a list of TClass values or ranges
> >>
> >> QoS policy file example
> >> --
> >>
> >> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
> >> <qos-policy>
> >>     <!-- Port Groups define sets of ports to be used later in the settings -->
> >>     <port-groups>
> >>         <!-- using port GUIDs -->
> >>         <port-group> 
> >>             <name>Storage</name> 
> >>             <use>our SRP storage targets</use>
> > 
> > Is the use clause more than commentary ? How is it "used" ?
> 
> The 'use' clause is just a description of the port group that
> can be used for logging. Other than for logging, it is just a
> commentary. 
>  
> >>             <port-guid>0x1000000000000001</port-guid>
> >>             <port-guid>0x1000000000000002</port-guid>
> >>         </port-group>
> >>         <!-- using names obtained by concatenation of first 2 words of NodeDescription
> >>              and port number -->
> >>         <port-group> 
> >>             <name>Virtual Servers</name> 
> >>             <use>node desc and IB port #</use>
> >>             <port-name>vs1/HCA-1/P1</port-name>
> >>             <port-name>vs3/HCA-1/P1</port-name>
> >>             <port-name>vs3/HCA-2/P1</port-name>
> > 
> > How are port-names used ?
> 
> The syntax of the port name is as follows:
> "hostname/CA-num/Pnum"

What's it's purpose ? Is it used somewhere else in the syntax ?

> >>         </port-group>
> >>         <!-- using partitions defined in the partition policy -->
> >>         <port-group> 
> >>             <name>Partition 1</name> 
> >>             <use>default settings</use>
> >>             <partition>Part1</partition> 
> >>         </port-group>
> >>         <!-- using node types HCA|ROUTER|SWITCH -->
> > 
> > Is this CA rather than HCA ? (What about TCAs ?)
> 
> Sure, it should be 'CA'.

Will this be changed ? If so, when ?

> >>         <port-group> 
> >>             <name>Routers</name> 
> >>             <use>all routers</use>
> >>             <node-type>ROUTER</node-type> 
> >>         </port-group>  
> >>     </port-groups>
> >>     
> >>     <qos-setup>
> >>     <!-- define all types of SL2VL tables always have 16 VL entries -->
> >                                                            ^^
> > Actually, it is                                            SL
> > assuming the device supports SL2VL mapping as indicate by
> > IsSLMappingSupported in the PortInfo:CapabilityMask.
> > Will the syntax handle single data VL devices which only implement SL
> > filtering ? 
> 
> Yes, it should.
> 
> > Will the QoS manager support this (SL2VL without VLArb
> > settings) or are these required together ?
> 
> Yes, it should support sl2vl w/o vlarb settings as well.
> 
> >>         <sl2vl-tables>
> >>         <!-- scope defines the exact devices and in/out ports the tables apply to
> >>              if the same port is matching several rules the last one applies -->
> >>             <sl2vl-scope> 
> >>                 <group>Part1</group> 
> >>                 <from>*</from> 
> >>                 <to>*</to> 
> >>                 <sl2vl-table>0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,7</sl2vl-table>
> >>             </sl2vl-scope>
> >>             <!-- also the link across port 1 is probably supporting only 2 VLs -->
> >>             <sl2vl-scope> 
> >>                 <across>Storage</across> 
> >>                 <!-- "across-from" means the port just connected to the given group -->
> >>                 <across-from>Storage2</across-from>
> >>                 <!-- "across-to" means the port just connected *to* the given group -->
> >>                 <across-to>Storage3</across-to>
> > 
> > I don't quite follow across-from/to.
> 
> Right, the comments there are garbage. Here the explanation:
> SL2VL table describes VL as function of from-port, to-port, and SL.
> 
> <across-to>group_name</across-to>:
>    It defines sl2vl table where 'to-port's belong to group_name
> <across-from>group_name</across-from>:
>    Same as above, only that this time 'from-port's belong to group_name
> <across>group_name</across>:
>    sl2vl tables both for 'to-port's 'from-port's that belong to group_name

I'm still not following what is going on here and how this is used.

> >>                 <from>*</from> 
> >>                 <to>1</to>
> >>                 <sl2vl-table>0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0</sl2vl-table>
> >>             </sl2vl-scope>
> >>         </sl2vl-tables>
> >>
> >>         <!-- define all types of VLArb tables. The length of the tables should 
> >>              match the physically supported tables by their target ports -->
> >>         <vlarb-tables>
> >>             <!-- scope defines the exact ports the VLArb tables apply to -->
> >>             <vlarb-scope> 
> >>                 <group>Storage</group>
> >>                 <!-- VLArb table holds VL and weight pairs -->
> >>                 <vlarb-high>0:255,1:127,2:63,3:31,4:15,5:7,6:3,7:1</vlarb-high>
> >>                 <vlarb-low>8:255,9:127,10:63,11:31,12:15,13:7,14:3</vlarb-low>
> >>                 <vl-high-limit>10</vl-high-limit>
> > 
> > What happens if the shape of VLArb indicated here does not match the
> > device ?
> 
> The part that sets up the QoS in SM (I'm not writing this part right now),

What is the plan for this ?

> should issue error message in case VLArb definition doesn't match the device
> properties.

Aside from the error message, is there any additional error handling for
this ?

> >>             </vlarb-scope>
> >>         </vlarb-tables>
> >>     </qos-setup>
> >>
> >>     <qos-levels>
> >>         <!-- the first one is just setting SL -->
> >>         <qos-level> 
> >>             <sn>1</sn> 
> > 
> > What does sn mean ? What is it used for ?
> 
> 'sn' is an id of this qos level definition.
> It is referenced later in by QoS match rules as 'qos-level-sn'

What is 'sn' short for ?

> >>             <use>for the lowest priority comm</use>
> >>             <sl>16</sl>
> >>         </qos-level>
> >>         <!-- the second sets SL and TClass -->
> >>         <qos-level> 
> >>             <sn>2</sn> 
> >>             <use>low latency best bandwidth</use>
> >>             <sl>0</sl> 
> >>             <class>7</class>
> > 
> > What is class ? I saw TClass mentioned earlier. Is this TClass or
> > something else ?
> 
> Instead of "TClass" there should be "QoS Class".
> The <class> value is the PathRecord.qos_class value that should be
> returned in the path record query response when a certain <qos-level>
> is applied to the returned path.

So these names need to change to be more consistent ?

> >>         </qos-level>
> >>         <!-- the whole set: SL, TClass, MTU-Limit, Rate-Limit, Path-Bits  -->
> > 
> > If specified, do MTU limit and rate limit add extra limits to be imposed
> > on what is selected (and realizable) ?
> 
> Yes
> 
> > Strictly speaking, couldn't packet lifetime limit also be added to this
> > syntax here ? I presume it was left out as being not "interesting" as
> > yet. Is that correct ?
> 
> I can add packet lifetime limit - it's not a big deal
> 
> > Also, how are path bits used ?
> 
> For now I don't do anything with them - we'll discuss this issue in the future.

How are they envisioned to be used ? 

Why are they in the syntax now ? Seems inconsistent with PLL.

Should there be a warning if they are specified now since they are not
used ? 
 
> >>         <qos-level> 
> >>             <sn>3</sn> 
> >>             <use>just an example</use>
> >>             <sl>0</sl> 
> >>             <class>32</class> 
> >>             <mtu-limit>1</mtu-limit> 
> >>             <rate-limit>1</rate-limit>
> >>         </qos-level>
> >>     </qos-levels>
> >>
> >>     <!-- Match rules are scanned in a first-fit manner (like firewall rules table) -->
> >>     <qos-match-rules>
> >>         <!-- matching by single criteria: class (list of values and ranges) -->
> >>         <qos-match-rule> 
> >>             <qos-level-sn>1</qos-level-sn> <!-- defined in <sn> of <qos-level> -->
> >>             <use>low latency by class 7-9 or 11</use> <!-- just a description -->
> >>             <class>7-9,11</class> <!--  -->
> >>             <match-level>1</match-level> <!-- ID of this match rule -->
> >>         </qos-match-rule>
> >>         <!-- show matching by destination group AND service-ids -->
> >>         <qos-match-rule> 
> >>             <qos-level-sn>2</qos-level-sn> 
> >>             <use>Storage targets connection></use>
> >>             <destination>Storage</destination>
> >>             <service>22,4719</service>
> > 
> > What is service ? What does 22.4719 mean ?
> 
> The syntax is <service>service_id1,service_id1,...</service>, so in the
> example above these are actually two service ids.

So you can create arbitrary lists of service IDs. What about ranges ?
Does the syntax support that ?

> As for the exact meaning of this, I'm not sure - I need to think about it...

Let me know. I'd really like to understand the syntax.

> >>             <match-level>3</match-level> 
> > 
> > What are match-levels used for ?
> 
> Actually, they are not used - they shouldn't appear here.
> Somehow it was copy-pasted here from one of the older versions
> of the policy file.

So can this be updated for what is current ?

Thanks.

-- Hal

> -- Yevgeny
> 
> > -- Hal
> > 
> >>         </qos-match-rule>
> >>     </qos-match-rules>
> >>
> >> </qos-policy>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Yevgeny
> >>
> >> Yevgeny Kliteynik wrote:
> >>> Hi Sasha,
> >>>
> >>> Sasha Khapyorsky wrote:
> >>>> On 10:46 Sun 21 Jan     , Yevgeny Kliteynik wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Sasha.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sasha Khapyorsky wrote:
> >>>>>> Hi Yevgeny,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 17:01 Wed 17 Jan     , Yevgeny Kliteynik wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hi Hal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The following series of six patches implements QoS policy file parser:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 1. QoS parser Lex file
> >>>>>>> 2. QoS parser Lex-generated c file
> >>>>>>> 3. QoS parser grammar (Yacc) file
> >>>>>>> 4. QoS parser Yacc-generated grammar c and h file
> >>>>>>> 5. QoS parser header file that defines parse tree data structures 
> >>>>>>> 6. Changes in makefiles and configure.in file for compiling QoS parser files
> >>>>>> Is there any description of proposed format and functionality?
> >>>>> The parser is based on QoS RFC sent by Eitan in May 2006, with a few
> >>>>> minor modifications. You can find the RFC here:
> >>>>> http://openib.org/pipermail/openib-general/2006-May/022336.html
> >>>> This was RFC and couple of issues were discussed then. Now you are about
> >>>> implementation phase and exact format description would be desired. For
> >>>> example what "few minor modifications" are?
> >>> I'll prepare an example file with explanations.
> >>>
> >>> -- Yevgeny
> >>>
> >>>>>> Also what about using human readable formats?
> >>>>> To me the xml-like format in the RFC looks pretty readable.
> >>>>> It has very limited number of keywords (tags), so it's easy 
> >>>>> to follow and/or to modify.
> >>>> It is your opinion, not everybody will agree with it (AFAIR this was
> >>>> discussed too during RFC).
> >>>>
> >>>> I would not be care, but I don't know any example of really successful
> >>>> XML using for configuration purposes (especially where advanced graphical
> >>>> config editors/viewers were not used). Do you know?
> >>>>
> >>>> Sasha
> >>>>
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