[ofa-general] RE: OpenSM detection of duplicated GUIDs on loopback

Eitan Zahavi eitan at mellanox.co.il
Wed Jul 25 23:25:13 PDT 2007


> Hi Eitan, Hal,
> 
> On 20:44 Wed 25 Jul     , Eitan Zahavi wrote:
> > 
> > I am not following you.
> > Why do a user need to run -y if a simple legal cable connector is 
> > plugged?
> 
> Because duplicated GUIDs detector can aborts OpenSM when 
> regular port is reconnected to another location during hard 
> sweep. This issue is not related to loopback plug at all.
I  think we should handle the case of "migrated port" in a more global
sense:
If a port "moved" during the sweep we have to do a new sweep anyway.
Maybe we could delay the 'abort' to the second sweep.

So practically I propose:
1. Add state flag "was duplicated" on the port saying it was reported as
duplicate GUID.
2. Set the variable controlling a forced secodn sweep (similar to the
one used if we got Set error)
3. Repeat the sweep - if we find a port where it is a duplicate and the
"was duplicated" flag is set - abort.

A refinement for the user who is doing many changes continuously might
be to keep a counter.
And have the abort happen after the Nth iteration.
> 
> > The issue is only if a "loop back" plug connecting a port 
> to itself is 
> > plugged.
> 
> No, not only. Now there are two completely separate known 
> issues with duplicated GUIDs detector:
> 
> 1. Port moving
> 2. Loopback plug
> 
> And I think that _both_ should be solved. And if just using 
> '-y' could be suitable for (2) because it is esoteric 
> (although perfectly legal) use, it is not acceptable solution for (1).
> 
> I think we need to improve GUIDs duplication detector 
> instead. For example we could add NodeInfo comparison there, 
> and only in case if it is different drop GUIDs duplication 
> error. Also I think this should not be fatal error and should 
> not abort OpenSM, just logging (probably via syslog too) 
> should be sufficient - non-working port is good reason to 
> look at logs. Another ideas?
The problem is that the SM will sort of figure out the network but will
create a completely bogus routing etc.

> 
> Sasha
> 
> > Do users use these plugs? For what sake?
> > 
> > 
> > Eitan Zahavi
> > Senior Engineering Director, Software Architect Mellanox 
> Technologies 
> > LTD
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> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sasha Khapyorsky [mailto:sashak at voltaire.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 3:19 AM
> > > To: Eitan Zahavi
> > > Cc: Hal Rosenstock; OpenFabrics General; Yevgeny Kliteynik
> > > Subject: Re: OpenSM detection of duplicated GUIDs on loopback
> > > 
> > > On 23:25 Tue 24 Jul     , Eitan Zahavi wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 	On 7/24/07, Eitan Zahavi <eitan at mellanox.co.il> wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > 		Maybe  avoid the log if -y is provided?
> > > > 
> > > > 	 
> > > > 	That avoids the spew but the duplicated GUID is
> > > important to know so
> > > > IMO something in the "middle" is needed where 
> duplicated GUIDs are 
> > > > logged but not continually the same ones.
> > > > 	[EZ]  
> > > > 	OK so in -y mode only we track which ones were reported
> > > and do not
> > > > repeat the log?
> > > 
> > > And how port moving problem should be solved?
> > > 
> > > We cannot ask an user to run OpenSM with '-y' if in 
> her/his plans to 
> > > reconnect some ports in a future and just decrease logging.
> > > 
> > > Sasha
> > > 
> 



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