[ofa-general] Multicast traffic generates Bad P_Key trap in SM when working in partial member setup
Hal Rosenstock
hrosenstock at xsigo.com
Thu Jun 12 06:08:50 PDT 2008
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 15:58 +0300, Yevgeny Kliteynik wrote:
> Hal Rosenstock wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 14:08 +0300, Olga Shern (Voltaire) wrote:
> >>
> >> On 6/12/08, Hal Rosenstock <hrosenstock at xsigo.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Olga,
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 09:46 +0300, Olga Shern wrote:
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > We have found something that seems like Infiniband Spec
> >> hole,
> >>
> >> What's the spec hole ?
> >>
> >> According to the Infiniband spec - partial member cannot "talk" with
> >> partial member only with full member.
> >> Therefore if partial member sending MC packet - all other partial
> >> members of this partition will generate BAD PKEY trap.
> >> It means that the behavior that we see is according to Infiniband
> >> Spec - but very problematic
> >
> > Originally, multicast groups were all full member only and more recently
> > was this extended to allow partial members and this was missed. A
> > comment should be filed against the spec on this.
> >
> >> > This issue is system issue that prevents from partial P_Key
> >> setup to
> >> > go into production.
> >>
> >> Indeed :-(
> >>
> >> > Short Setup & test description:
> >> > ------------------------------------------
> >> > * Node A: P_Key XXX (full member)
> >> > * Node B, C, D, E, F: P_Key XXx (partial member)
> >> >
> >> > 1. Send ping from B -> A : ping is OK
> >> > 2. Send ping from C -> A : ping is OK
> >> > 3. Send ping from B -> C : no ping also OK
> >> > * Get traps Bad P_Key in SM - from all HCA in the fabric
> >> both for
> >> > test 1 & 2 (one time) and also for test 3 (all the time).
> >
> > What does all the time mean ? Does this mean with one test 3 ping, the
> > traps are repeated ? If so, at what rate ?
>
> Also, why do the HCAs issue these traps? Is the pkey enforcement
> on switch external ports is off?
I presume so but there was a claim about what would happen if
ingress/egress filtering were on (about getting the switch rather than
end port bad PKey traps).
> AFAIK, by default, OpenSM should
> configure pkeys on switch ports that are connected to these HCAs,
> so that partial member wouldn't get packet from another partial
> member.
It was done using VSM not OpenSM.
-- Hal
> -- Yevgeny
>
> >> > Probably the ARP request that is MC traffic generate the
> >> trap in HCA,
> >> > for test 1
> >> > & 2 we have only one ARP but for test 3 we send ARP all the
> >> time
> >> > because
> >> > we do not get any ARP reply.
> >> >
> >> > * The trap number SM get is 257 (HCA trap) if we will do
> >> P_Key
> >> > switch enforcement we will probably get 259
> >>
> >> Is this with OpenSM or VSM ?
> >>
> >> We tested it with Voltaire SM but it should behave the same with
> >> OpenSM.
> >
> > That's likely but I'm not sure yet.
> >
> >> -- Hal
> >>
> >> > * We get trap also from the originator of the MC traffic
> >> even
> >> > though that receive switch relay error counter is increased
> >> (when out
> >> > port==in port), the switch does not drop the packet ?
> >
> > The implementation of that counter is broken and occurs "normally". The
> > increment of this counter is relatively meaningless :-(
> >
> >> > Additional questions/issues:
> >> > * Do we have a way to suppress port traps from SMA ?? i.e.
> >> that
> >> > the port will not generate traps that can "kill the SM" - as
> >> its look
> >> > this is bug in the spec where we can't send any mc traffic
> >> (even ARP)
> >> > when we have partial members and we do not have a way to
> >> suppress the
> >> > traps.
> >
> > All the SM can do is TrapRepress.
> >
> >> > * What will happen in the HCA when we get many traps (mc
> >> packets
> >> > from many nodes) and they need to keep all events until SM
> >> will
> >> > acknowledge? - Is there limitation in the number of on-
> >> going
> >> > traps (any HCA specific issues)?
> >
> > Assuming you mean events from which traps are generated, I think this is
> > left as an implementation dependent detail in terms of the spec. An
> > implementation needs to take care not to lose certain events; others
> > like this aren't critical but that's left to the specific SMA
> > implementation.
> >
> > -- Hal
> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards
> >> >
> >> > Olga
> >> >
> >> >
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