[Ofa_boardplus] logo program discussion

[Coulter, Susan K]

My only concern with discussing this on email is someone at some point needs to try and summarize what was said, agreed to, decided.
(if anything)
I think the discussion is valuable, so even if nothing is “decided” the discussion has been valuable.

So far it seems that there is a difference of opinion on the value of the logo program, and the value of it to the larger membership.
The fine points of who pays and how they pay are difficult ones because “we have always done it this way”.
The OFA has existed for many years and pretty much chugged along and nothing much changed, so perhaps it feels like “we will always do it this way”.  If the OFA moves into a new model, the membership may change and be more dynamic going forward.  So those fine points may come back to bite us.

You are correct that the OFA has a lot on its plate.  That is a massive understatement actually.  
That said, I do think we will need to discuss this at an XWG meeting in the near future - regardless of any ongoing email thread.

Rock on ;)


> On Sep 1, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe at obsidianresearch.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 10:06:14AM -0700, Jim Ryan wrote:
>> There has been a good deal of discussion on this since yesterday's Board
>> meeting in two now lengthy threads "Logo Program Discussion" and "Jason's draft
>> preso...". I'm getting some heated comments this has gone on too long and this
>> isn't the right forum.
> 
> Then what is the right forum?
> 
> The XWG and Board meetings routinely go over time and fail to reach
> all the items, if the board specific mailing list is not an
> appropriate forum to discuss board buisness between meetings then what
> is?
> 
> The OFA has *ALOT* on it's plate. Making progress on items through the
> mailing list is, in my view, a completely acceptable way for the board
> to do buisness. I am disappointed by the idea that some people do not
> agree.
> 
>> Therefore I'm going to suggest starting a new thread including those who've
>> spoken up or are known to have an interest in this area, including myself, Paul
> 
> I already started a new thread :)
> 
>> BTW, I accept the criticism that this ran on too long here. I want to explain
>> without being defensive I continued because:
> 
> I do not accept that criticism.
> 
> In fact I think it is out of line and deeply inappropriate for some
> parties to privately try and shut down an open and productive
> discussion between members of the board.
> 
> It is email, if you don't want to read the thread then mute it in your
> mail client.
> 
> And thanks to Jim for showing better judgement and continuing to
> provide very valuable information and perspective..
> 
> Thanks,
> Jason
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