[Openframeworkwg] OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations

[Ryan, Jim]

Let me offer a little more on this, because I think Woody is raising a point I wasn't being sufficiently sensitive to. The point I was trying to make was my efforts to get processes and procedures agreed as quickly as possible were the right things to be doing.

Woody's point is that the practices and procedures should be proposed by the co-chairs, and I think that makes sense from a "form" standpoint. I'm just trying, again, to have something ready for that step as quickly as possible.

What's implied by this, I believe, is there's no necessary relationship betw the Board selection of the co-chairs and the work I'm driving on the practices and procedures.

Specifically, if we're comfortable having members volunteer for co-chair positions in time for the 9/20 Board meeting, as discussed, I think that would be good. I have no expectations for when the Board might vote to approve the proposed P&P.

The net is I'm just trying to get the work of the WG going as fast as practically possible

Thanks for your clarifying insights, Woody

Regards, Jim

From: Ryan, Jim
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Subject: RE: OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations

I don't think so. I believe I'm acting on the assignment I was given yesterday, I'm just trying to do it in as straightforward a fashion as possible.

This really isn't difficult to do, and debates like yesterday, while important, are not especially productive, IMO

Jim

From: Woodruff, Robert J
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:44 AM
To: Ryan, Jim; 'openframeworkwg at lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K'; Rimmer, Todd; Wood, Donald E; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (rsdance at soft-forge.com<mailto:rsdance at soft-forge.com>); Berry, Frank; Hefty, Sean; Stachura, Tom L; grun at cray.com<mailto:grun at cray.com>; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (Brad.Benton at amd.com<mailto:Brad.Benton at amd.com>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; Sur, Sayantan; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (rebecca at openfabrics.org<mailto:rebecca at openfabrics.org>); 'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio at mellanox.com'; 'linden at cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'openframeworkwg at lists.openfabrics.org'; 'Coulter, Susan K'; 'Jeff Becker'; Rupert Dance (rsdance at soft-forge.com<mailto:rsdance at soft-forge.com>); grun at cray.com<mailto:grun at cray.com>; Bill Boas; Benton, Brad (Brad.Benton at amd.com<mailto:Brad.Benton at amd.com>); 'Mani Subramaniyan'; 'Tom Reu'; 'Avneesh Pant'; Rebecca Moran (rebecca at openfabrics.org<mailto:rebecca at openfabrics.org>); 'Goldiez, Brian'; 'Christoph Lameter'; 'tzahio at mellanox.com'; 'linden at cmf.nrl.navy.mil'; 'Marcin Ocwieja'; 'Jeff Squyres (jsquyres)'; 'Dave'; 'David Goodell (dgoodell)'; 'Cesare Cantu (cantuc)'
Subject: RE: OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations


?  I'm taking a relatively aggressive position by suggesting practices and procedures from the Guidelines, primarily. This is instead of raising an issue and saying, in effect, "what do you think?" Instead, I'm offering a position and asking you to support it or argue with it

Are we getting a little ahead of ourselves here.
Should these items wait to be decided until after the co-chairs are actually named ? I think it should be left
up to the co-chairs to propose the rules by which the working group will follow.  Perhaps we can start the discussions now,
but I would think that it would ultimately be up to the co-chairs to suggest and approve formal adoption of the working groups
processes and procedures.

My 2 cents.

Woody



From: Ryan, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 9:30 AM
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Subject: OFA OFWG meeting minutes and responses to AR re organizational recommendations

I'm sorry for the length of the attached, but I don't believe there's any way around it. I reviewed the OFA Bylaws and the IBTA Guidelines for suggestions as to how to identify the areas we touched on in our meeting yesterday, and additional areas suggested by the Guidelines themselves.

I'm taking a relatively aggressive position by suggesting practices and procedures from the Guidelines, primarily. This is instead of raising an issue and saying, in effect, "what do you think?" Instead, I'm offering a position and asking you to support it or argue with it

I'm hoping we can make significant progress by email to set up another productive meeting on Tuesday

Thanks,

Jim Ryan
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