[ofiwg] FW: FW: SC15 Tutorial submission: substantiation of participation

[Paul Grun]

-----Original Message-----
From: Sung-Eun Choi [mailto:sungeun at cray.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:08 AM
To: Paul Grun
Subject: Re: [ofiwg] FW: SC15 Tutorial submission: substantiation of participation

Sure.

-- Sung

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 10:00:00AM -0700, Paul Grun wrote:
> Okay if I copy your thoughts to the OFI mailing list?  These are really helpful and they may stimulate the thinking of others...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sung-Eun Choi [mailto:sungeun at cray.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:42 AM
> To: Paul Grun
> Subject: Re: [ofiwg] FW: SC15 Tutorial submission: substantiation of participation
> 
> I didn't read the proposal as I am on the committee, but here's some advice based on previously accepted and rejected tutorials.
> 
> I don't think discussing what you say below will help, because those are not likely the people who will attend the tutorial.  If you haven't done so already, explain who would be interested in attending such a tutorial, e.g., MPI developers, PGAS language developers, etc. for all such communities that will be in attendance at SC.  If possible, I'd try make a case for industry participants--they often get forgotten, but they are also the ones who may foot the bill for such a tutorial.  We've had quite a few at the Chapel tutorials in the past.
> 
> I'd also cite that this is the interface that will be available on CORAL and other such Intel-based systems.  There is a large community of people who will be using this interface.  If Cisco can add some stats about their potential user community, that would be good too.
> If there's a way to get an international angle on it (e.g., saying something about Intel/Cisco systems in Europe or Asia), that would be good too.
> 
> Finally, if you haven't done so already, cite last year's PGAS tutorial with hard facts.  Attendance numbers (even as a percentage of attendees), slides (though I have to say they were a little lean), length in hours, and feedbak (if collected).
> 
> -- Sung
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 04:15:24PM +0000, Paul Grun wrote:
> > Greetings -  Attached below is a message received last night from SC15 concerning our proposed tutorial.
> > 
> > I was thinking about discussing the consistently broad participation in the working group, the evident interest during the past two OFA workshops (including the regular cadence of F-2-Fs), and the lively discussion during the BoF two years ago.  I am on the fence as to whether to include some of Sean's stuff (or possibly my stuff) as samples.  What do people think about that?
> > 
> > Any other evidence we can offer of broad interest?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > -Paul
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SC15 Submissions [mailto:do_not_reply at linklings.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:46 PM
> > To: Paul Grun
> > Subject: SC15 Tutorial submission: substantiation of participation
> > 
> > Dear Paul,
> > 
> > In looking at the submissions, we have some concern about whether proposals are providing evidence to back up claims about levels of interest in a topic and/or expected numbers of participants. Attendance for similar past presentations, groups attending the conference that you know to have expressed interest in the topic might be examples.  Last year, there were tutorials with just a handful or participants, and we wish to avoid that. Levels of expected participation are a key selection criteria.  Also, please note that samples of your presentation material often end up being a key criterion for acceptance.
> > 
> > We've opened submissions until May 22 AOE to give you the opportunity bolster your case for your submission, if you feel it is necessary. This is a blanket email to all proposers, so as not to single anyone out. It's totally up to you whether you wish to take advantage of this opportunity.  
> > 
> > Thanks again for your submission!  
> > 
> > CJ and Rich
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > ofiwg mailing list
> > ofiwg at lists.openfabrics.org
> > http://lists.openfabrics.org/mailman/listinfo/ofiwg