[Openib-promoters] Re: [openib-general] Next workshop dates? Ideas for agenda???

Mon Dec 12 17:33:07 PST 2005

I agree that we should have the event in early FEB that most people can
attend (week of the 6th is OK, although it stinks for Superbowl fans...:) ).

I see significant updates, even from our last event at the end of AUG, on
all fronts:  Windows (MemFree, SDP, etc.), Linux (Updates from distros,
stack updates), Storage (SRP, iSER/NFSoRDMA over OpenIB directly),
Virtualization, MPI, RDS, discussions about QoS, management, etc.

Comments from the last event that many wanted to attend many sessions that
were concurrent as we had a windows/linux/applications session all running
together.  The agenda will have to allow flexibility so folks can attend
both while not taking too much of people's time.  Maybe run the Windows and
Linux together one day and applications on another day because it seemed
everyone wanted to get there.

It will be up to the organizers and presenters to propose an agenda that is
"fresh" and reduce the number of repeat slides from previous conferences.  I
do see the developer community growing, and as a result, some first time
attendees will be seeing some info for the first time so a minimal amount of
overlap for continuity isn't going to kill anyone.  

Regards,
THAD

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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Boas [mailto:bboas at llnl.gov] 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:55 AM
To: Roland Dreier
Cc: Henry Brandt; Peter Haas; Head Bubba; Tziporet Koren; Peter Krey (JP
Morgan) (E-mail); openib-general at openib.org; Tim Lyons (Morgan Stanley)
(E-mail); openib-promoters at openib.org
Subject: Re: [Openib-promoters] Re: [openib-general] Next workshop dates?
Ideas for agenda???

Roland,

These are all excellent perspectives, I hope others will respond with 
their view points.

Certainly repeating what we have heard already is not a good use of 
anyone's time or money but I'm under the impression that we will have 
made some progress toward what we want to work on next as a result of 
PathForward Phase 2, input from Tom Tucker and others on OpenIB iWARP 
integration and the HSIR meeting in NYC tomorrow.

With respect to "release" of OpenIB rel 1.0, did Doug Ledford 
effectively do that a week or two ago?

I think those of us ( including me) who originally thought OpenIB was 
actually going be an organization that released and supported code 
(like RedHat, say) had got it wrong. Now I believe that when a Linux 
distribution, an IB company or a Tier One OEM decides that is a 
version of the code that they will support, then that is a "release". 
OpenIB may be best utilized to try to achieve some consistency in 
timeframe and content amongst those who wish to "release and support" 
the code???

Bill.

At 09:39 AM 12/12/2005, Roland Dreier wrote:
>     Bill> I think, subject to others input, it'll be focused on
>     Bill> wrapping up rel 1.0 of OpenIB, discussing what the
>     Bill> developers are going to focus on next and validating the
>     Bill> strategy for RDMA over Ethernet integration at the verbs
>     Bill> level to lay the foundation for one, consistent RDMA
>     Bill> structure in Linux, if possible.
>
>I'm not sure I see the point in dragging everyone together in early
>February.  With the holidays coming, realistically we only have maybe
>5 weeks to prepare a conference agenda, and I don't see that as being
>enough time to set up a productive meeting.
>
>In particular:
>
>  * wrapping up rel 1.0 -- the release process for a "1.0" release has
>    not even started.  About all we could hope to accomplish would be
>    to pick a release manager and tell that person to go start driving
>    a release, and I don't see that as a good use of face-to-face
>    time.  It would be much better to pick someone to drive the release
>    and then give the release manager time to start putting the release
>    together before getting together, so that we have some idea of what
>    the real issues that need to be hashed out in person are.
>
>  * iWARP integration -- again, not enough discussion has taken place
>    in advance.  Until the community has a chance to really study the
>    proposed changes and figure out what the real difficult issues that
>    need to be sorted out in person are, again it's a waste of time to
>    meet in person.
>
>  * discuss developers next steps -- perhaps I'm pessimistic but I
>    think we'll just get the same talks we've already seen twice before
>    at Sonoma and IDF.
>
>Sonoma is a short trip for me but given the number of people that will
>have to come from the East coast and Israel, I think we should think
>hard about whether this conference is the best use of our time.
>
>  - R.
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