[Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup

Coulter, Susan K skc at lanl.gov
Mon May 21 11:05:56 PDT 2018


The Word document I created has what I believe are the new locations.

FWIW - I do >not< support us providing links, simply because those links may change and we will need to keep them updated.
Or - they are so easy and obvious to get to (like open-mpi.org<http://open-mpi.org>) it adds no value.

These things were needed years ago when this stuff was in its infancy.
We are long past that now.
Seems to me the OFA web site should work its way out of the business of software entirely.
The software page in its current form is so out of date it does more to confuse than help.

Again, this is just a discussion/proposal.
It is on the agenda for this Thursday’s meeting as well.
Nothing will be done unless/until the Board agrees.

Thanx.

On May 21, 2018, at 11:50 AM, Woodruff, Robert J <robert.j.woodruff at intel.com<mailto:robert.j.woodruff at intel.com>> wrote:

I see what you are asking now. Yes, I think we could remove the OFS components page and replace it with a list and links to the various github repos for
rdma-core, libfabric, etc. Are there similar git repos for the stuff that is not in rdma-core, e.g., OpenSM ?

From: Coulter, Susan K [mailto:skc at lanl.gov]
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Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup




On May 21, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Woodruff, Robert J <robert.j.woodruff at intel.com<mailto:robert.j.woodruff at intel.com>> wrote:

I think we need to keep the link to the downloads for the community OFED packages. We can remove the other ones IMO and just point people to the
github or other repos for rdma-core and libfabric, etc.

The OFED download page is a separate link from the “OFS Components” download page.

So, if I understand you, you are supporting the removal of the “Download OFS Components” page completely.
But we keep the “Download OFED Releases” page.

Correct ?

I will also suggest we remove the “About the upload site”.
We need to turn the OpenFabrics git repo site into a read-only space - except for the repos we keep until they get permanently moved.




From: Coulter, Susan K [mailto:skc at lanl.gov]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:08 AM
To: Davis, Arlin R <arlin.r.davis at intel.com<mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com>>
Cc: Woodruff, Robert J <robert.j.woodruff at intel.com<mailto:robert.j.woodruff at intel.com>>; Jason Gunthorpe <jgg at ziepe.ca<mailto:jgg at ziepe.ca>>; ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org<mailto:ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org>, <ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org<mailto:ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org>>
Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup


Arlin,
You mention the git repo below.
That list is attached, and is different from the “Downloads” page.

I am beginning to think we remove the Downloads page completely, and point people to the git repo.
That git repo needs a serious clean up too.
My suggestion is a sunset timeframe to motivate folks to move any valid repos to github.

That is not my call, but I will propose it at the next Board meeting as a discussion point.

The repo information is in the Excel spreadsheet attached.
The 26 entries in the section at the top are the only ones that appear close to being valid.
The others, I propose, we send notification about their removal, and then delete them.

Again - this is a >proposal< and I am sending these lists out as a first wag at what might still be valid.

Thanx.





On May 18, 2018, at 2:31 AM, Davis, Arlin R <arlin.r.davis at intel.com<mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com>> wrote:

compat-dapl can be deleted from the maintainer list:

compat-dapl: Arlin Davis <arlin.r.davis at intel.com<mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com>>
http://www.openfabrics.org/downloads/dapl
git://git.openfabrics.org/~ardavis/dapl.git dat1.2



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Subject: RE: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup

Yes, we do have to provide support for Intel MPI and Xeon Phi Co-Processor
for a couple more years. IBM DB2 PureScale is also a consumer of DAPL,
mainly because of the OS agnostic RDMA interfaces.

-arlin




There is not much addition work (other than bug fixes) is being done
on DAPL, but it is still used by the shipping version of Intel MPI, so
we still need the repo for now.

Longer term, the next version of Intel MPI for 2019 is based on OFI
and I am not sure if anything else is actually using DAPL, so longer
term, Jason is right that it will stop being relevant in a couple of years.

+Arlin, DAPL maintainer in case he wants to comment.

Woody


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Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup

libvmw_pvrdma is already part of rdma-core these days

libscif is a 'verbs provider' and is incompatible with rdma-core, so
it is basically useless for OFA. Recommend to remove it too.

That leaves only two things.. DAPL is basically a dead project
superceeded by libfabric. It will stop being relavent in two years I suspect.

The same excercies should be done on the windows side. AFAIK 'OFED for
Windows' and related is completely dead and should be removed too.

Jason

On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 07:11:07PM +0000, Coulter, Susan K wrote:


  Folks,
  This has been a long time coming … we need to remove old, obsolete
  cruft from the OFA “repo”.
  Please review the attached document - it has 2 sections.
  1.  A list of the directories available from the "OpenFabrics Software”
  page.
  That page is a quick link from the OFA home page, so easy to get to and
  therefore prone to confuse.
  I am recommending all but 3 of those directories should be removed.
  If we can find a better place for the 3 that seem current - that would
  be great.
  ( since there is no “OpenFabrics Software” - and that whole page needs
  a major upgrade )
  2.  A list of Maintainers.
  We should either review and insure correctness of this list - or remove
  it entirely.
  Any feedback is appreciated.
  Thanx.

  ================================
  Susan Coulter
  LANL / USRC / HPC-DES
  Network Lead
  (505) 412-6525
  Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu
  ================================




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Susan Coulter
LANL / USRC / HPC-DES
Network Lead
(505) 412-6525
Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu
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Susan Coulter
LANL / USRC / HPC-DES
Network Lead
(505) 412-6525
Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu
================================

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Susan Coulter
LANL / USRC / HPC-DES
Network Lead
(505) 412-6525
Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu
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