[ofiwg] Draft proposal for the SC15 libfabric BoF

[Gilad Shainer]

Paul this slide needs to be modified as well. Verbs supports both IB and Eth and essentially all RDMA fabrics. The claim that verbs is for IB only and OFI is for all is not the right message IMO. Not from OFA.


Regards,
Gilad Shainer
Vice President, Marketing
Mellanox Technologies
350 Oakmead Parkway, Suite 100, Sunnyvale CA, 94085
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-------- Original message --------
From: Paul Grun <grun at cray.com>
Date: 11/08/2015 18:53 (GMT+02:00)
To: Bernard Metzler <BMT at zurich.ibm.com>,Gilad Shainer <Shainer at Mellanox.com>
Cc: ofiwg at lists.openfabrics.org,"OFA Marketing Working Group (mwg at lists.openfabrics.org)" <mwg at lists.openfabrics.org>
Subject: RE: [ofiwg] Draft proposal for the SC15 libfabric BoF


I, too, agree.  The comments about verbs in the BoF proposal are based on this slide, currently being developed by DS/DA:

[cid:_com_android_email_attachmentprovider_8_178239_RAW at sec.galaxytab]

OFI WG came to a similar set of conclusions.   I strongly support the work going on in OFV WG.  OFV WG is not mentioned in the BoF proposal at all.
-Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Bernard Metzler [mailto:BMT at zurich.ibm.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 8:41 AM
To: Gilad Shainer
Cc: Paul Grun; ofiwg at lists.openfabrics.org; OFA Marketing Working Group (mwg at lists.openfabrics.org)
Subject: Re: [ofiwg] Draft proposal for the SC15 libfabric BoF

Gilad, I agree.

We as an alliance comprising multiple working groups should never promote public bashing among those groups. This should not preclude constructive discussion though.

Thanks,
Bernard.



From:   Gilad Shainer <Shainer at Mellanox.com<mailto:Shainer at Mellanox.com>>
To:     Paul Grun <grun at cray.com<mailto:grun at cray.com>>, "ofiwg at lists.openfabrics.org<mailto:ofiwg at lists.openfabrics.org>"
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            <mwg at lists.openfabrics.org<mailto:mwg at lists.openfabrics.org>>
Date:   08/10/2015 05:24 PM
Subject:        Re: [ofiwg] Draft proposal for the SC15 libfabric BoF
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Thanks for sending Paul.

I am not sure I understand why you suggest that the verbs API is not something that fit the needs of applications. The API was created with the RDMA network architecture to meet the needs of applications and it is proven in many systems installations, and it supports both InfiniBand and Ethernet. OFI is yet to be proved on a single system.

As long as OFA supports the development of OFI and OFV, I think that we need to be careful not to have negative view on neither  of them. If you want to focus on OFI that is fine, but there is no need to say it is the better option. The opposite can also be said.

Regards,
Gilad Shainer
Vice President, Marketing
Mellanox Technologies
350 Oakmead Parkway, Suite 100, Sunnyvale CA, 94085
Office: 408-916-0048, Mobile: 408-421-0048, Fax: 408-585-0348

From: mwg-bounces at lists.openfabrics.org<mailto:mwg-bounces at lists.openfabrics.org> [ mailto:mwg-bounces at lists.openfabrics.org] On Behalf Of Paul Grun
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Subject: [mwg] Draft proposal for the SC15 libfabric BoF

Comments and feedback are encouraged and welcomed.
-Paul

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