[Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup
Coulter, Susan K
skc at lanl.gov
Mon May 21 14:34:45 PDT 2018
On May 21, 2018, at 2:56 PM, Davis, Arlin R <arlin.r.davis at intel.com<mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com>> wrote:
Jason,
I think many agree with your view of OFED's lack of relevance in today's environment. However, until we agree on another option for the OpenFabrics Interoperability Logo program, OFED still has purpose for OFA members.
We will be pursuing that line of questioning with the InterOp participants in the next month or so.
We can certainly request maintainers move packages to github, but we need to coordinate with EWG to prevent breaking OFED build process. That being said, if the board decides that the future of OFED is very limited then let's not create a huge amount of interim work for EWG only to remove the work completely 1-2 years down the road.
Arlin
OFA should also figure out what role OFED plays now. I've said this many
times, but in my view no-one should use OFA OFED anymore. People who do
not want to use what comes with their distribution are better served by the
OFDED variation that comes from their vendor - and realistically most people
are fairly well served by what comes in the latest version of their distro
today..
Offering yet anoter choice (and arguably a less-well tested one, compared to
the vendor and distro variations) does not seem to be serving our user
community very well..
Jason
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 05:27:13PM +0000, Woodruff, Robert J wrote:
I think we need to keep the link to the downloads for the community
OFED packages. We can remove the other ones IMO and just point
people
to the
github or other repos for rdma-core and libfabric, etc.
From: Coulter, Susan K [mailto:skc at lanl.gov]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2018 9:08 AM
To: Davis, Arlin R <arlin.r.davis at intel.com<mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com>>
Cc: Woodruff, Robert J <robert.j.woodruff at intel.com<mailto:robert.j.woodruff at intel.com>>; Jason Gunthorpe
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Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup
Arlin,
You mention the git repo below.
That list is attached, and is different from the “Downloads” page.
I am beginning to think we remove the Downloads page completely, and
point people to the git repo.
That git repo needs a serious clean up too.
My suggestion is a sunset timeframe to motivate folks to move any valid
repos to github.
That is not my call, but I will propose it at the next Board meeting as
a discussion point.
The repo information is in the Excel spreadsheet attached.
The 26 entries in the section at the top are the only ones that appear
close to being valid.
The others, I propose, we send notification about their removal, and
then delete them.
Again - this is a >proposal< and I am sending these lists out as a
first wag at what might still be valid.
Thanx.
On May 18, 2018, at 2:31 AM, Davis, Arlin R
<[1]arlin.r.davis at intel.com<mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com>> wrote:
compat-dapl can be deleted from the maintainer list:
compat-dapl: Arlin Davis <[2]arlin.r.davis at intel.com<mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com>>
[3]http://www.openfabrics.org/downloads/dapl
git://git.openfabrics.org/~ardavis/dapl.git dat1.2
From: Davis, Arlin R
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 1:24 AM
To: Woodruff, Robert J <[4]robert.j.woodruff at intel.com<mailto:robert.j.woodruff at intel.com>>; Jason
Gunthorpe
<[5]jgg at ziepe.ca<mailto:jgg at ziepe.ca>>; Coulter, Susan K <[6]skc at lanl.gov<mailto:skc at lanl.gov>>
Cc: [7]ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org<mailto:ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org>,
<[8]ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org<mailto:ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org>>
Subject: RE: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup
Yes, we do have to provide support for Intel MPI and Xeon Phi
Co-Processor
for a couple more years. IBM DB2 PureScale is also a consumer of
DAPL,
mainly because of the OS agnostic RDMA interfaces.
-arlin
There is not much addition work (other than bug fixes) is being done
on DAPL, but it is still used by the shipping version of Intel MPI,
so
we still need the repo for now.
Longer term, the next version of Intel MPI for 2019 is based on OFI
and I am not sure if anything else is actually using DAPL, so longer
term, Jason is right that it will stop being relevant in a couple of
years.
+Arlin, DAPL maintainer in case he wants to comment.
Woody
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 12:24 PM
To: Coulter, Susan K <[10]skc at lanl.gov<mailto:skc at lanl.gov>>
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Subject: Re: [Ofa_boardplus] OFA Repo and Maintainer List cleanup
libvmw_pvrdma is already part of rdma-core these days
libscif is a 'verbs provider' and is incompatible with rdma-core, so
it is basically useless for OFA. Recommend to remove it too.
That leaves only two things.. DAPL is basically a dead project
superceeded by libfabric. It will stop being relavent in two years I
suspect.
The same excercies should be done on the windows side. AFAIK 'OFED
for
Windows' and related is completely dead and should be removed too.
Jason
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 07:11:07PM +0000, Coulter, Susan K wrote:
Folks,
This has been a long time coming … we need to remove old, obsolete
cruft from the OFA “repo”.
Please review the attached document - it has 2 sections.
1. A list of the directories available from the "OpenFabrics
Software”
page.
That page is a quick link from the OFA home page, so easy to get
to and
therefore prone to confuse.
I am recommending all but 3 of those directories should be
removed.
If we can find a better place for the 3 that seem current - that
would
be great.
( since there is no “OpenFabrics Software” - and that whole page
needs
a major upgrade )
2. A list of Maintainers.
We should either review and insure correctness of this list - or
remove
it entirely.
Any feedback is appreciated.
Thanx.
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Susan Coulter
LANL / USRC / HPC-DES
Network Lead
(505) 412-6525
Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu
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References
1. mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com
2. mailto:arlin.r.davis at intel.com
3. http://www.openfabrics.org/downloads/dapl
4. mailto:robert.j.woodruff at intel.com
5. mailto:jgg at ziepe.ca
6. mailto:skc at lanl.gov
7. mailto:ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org
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9. mailto:ofa_boardplus-bounces at lists.openfabrics.org
10. mailto:skc at lanl.gov
11. mailto:ofa_boardplus at lists.openfabrics.org
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Susan Coulter
LANL / USRC / HPC-DES
Network Lead
(505) 412-6525
Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu
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