[Openib-windows] Installing WSD from a directory without write permissions.

[Tzachi Dar]

Hi Fab,

It seems that our argument is about the role of a maintainer rather than
on the right to do checkins.

I do agree that Mellanox had to provide MTHCA as a GA on march and it is
taking more time than we though it would. But, we are working on this,
we are trying to solve these problems, and the facts that you see
checkins are because the driver is moving forward.
There is no arguing that once one is looking at the log of WSD in the
last month you didn't do anything in this area. (There were about 5
critical fixes by me). However, this is not the only measurement to
stability. Another measurement that one should look at is tests. Are
they passing or falling!!!
Currently we are limiting our selves to tests involving only two
machines, one process at each machines, only good flow, no more than 5
minutes to a test.
The current status of WSD is:
1) Data corruptions,
2) Tests hanging.
3) Memory leaks.
4) Failures of net-perf.
5) Failures of FTP.
6) And more and more, 

All this are critical bugs, that MUST be fixed before release.

AND TESTING DIDN'T REALLY BEGIN YET.

For this reasons, as we are still not that close to a release, there is
no reason to wait with checkins.

The only way I see that we can make a progress here is to choose a
maintainer that will be devoted to this work. If you want to be the
maintainer, that is fine, but get involved. Start running tests and work
on these issues. If you don't have the time to work on this, we should
vote for another maintainer. (believe me, I'll be more than happy not to
work on this issues).

If you wander why we didn't report all this issues to you, here is the
reason:
You are also the maintainer of IPOIB. We have reported a bug when
running g net-perf with small messages a long time ago. We didn't see
you do anything about it. We are still waiting.

And again Fab,
All that was written here was not to pass blames but to emphasize that
there are still a lot to be done. If you want to be the maintainer, and
if you want to start working on these critical bugs this is more than
fine. But if you expect Mellanox to do the work and expect us to wait
for more than two weeks (and you never took the time to answer our
mails) you are wrong.

Thanks
Tzachi


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ftillier.sst at gmail.com [mailto:ftillier.sst at gmail.com] 
> On Behalf Of Fabian Tillier
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:20 PM
> To: Tzachi Dar
> Cc: openib-windows at openib.org
> Subject: Re: [Openib-windows] Installing WSD from a directory 
> without write permissions.
> 
> On 6/22/06, Tzachi Dar <tzachid at mellanox.co.il> wrote:
> > See bellow.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tzachi
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ftillier.sst at gmail.com [mailto:ftillier.sst at gmail.com] On 
> > > Behalf Of Fabian Tillier
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:49 PM
> > >
> > > Hi Tzachi,
> > >
> > > On 6/22/06, Tzachi Dar <tzachid at mellanox.co.il> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Committed in revision 388.
> > >
> > > Do you delete the files after they are copied to the perf 
> directory?
> > > Or did you leave them?  They should be deleted after the install, 
> > > not be left behind.
> > >
> > Currently the files are left behind (in the temp directory). If you 
> > fill that this is necessary, we can delete them.
> >
> > > In the future, as this is *not* a critical fix, please wait for 
> > > approval before checking in.
> >
> > After speaking with many people at the open IB community, 
> it is hard 
> > to tell for how long one should wait for approve before 
> check-in. Many 
> > people have different opinions. However, all people agree 
> that if one 
> > has to wait for two weeks for some response, this is about 
> time moving 
> > the responsibility to a different maintainer.
> 
> If a patch is not preventing operation, there is absolutely 
> no reason the code should be checked in without approval of 
> the maintainer.  It doesn't matter how long it takes - there 
> are more important things than this that take priority, and 
> it's not up to you to decide when to check things in.  There 
> is no way that this patch would prevent you from making 
> forward progress with other work unless your development 
> process is broken.
> 
> I don't want to hear any BS about not being responsive when 
> there is plenty of blame to pass around for why things are 
> taking so damn long.
>  The MTHCA driver was supposed to be GA in *march*.  If you 
> look at the scope of the checkins being done on WSD, compared 
> to the changes in MTHCA, it's pretty clear that WSD is far 
> more mature than MTHCA.
> 
> The maintainers of components are the gate keepers for that component.
>  If you keep violating this, you will lose your checkin 
> rights to the SVN repository.  Check in rights are a 
> privilege, not an entitlement.
> 
> - Fab
> 
> 
>